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I honestly find it horrifying that you think stripping a person of their freedom and dignity for ten years is a reasonable penalty for being “noisy” on a train.

I honestly find it horrifying that you think stripping a person of their freedom and dignity for ten years is a reasonable penalty for being “noisy” on a train. I’d much rather be around the noisy-but-relatively-harmless person than someone with so little regard for their fellow man.

charcircuit 6mo ago
>for ten years Or longer if they show they are unable to reform while in prison. >penalty for being “noisy” on a train That is ignoring the second order effects of the situation. This noise is holding back the flywheel of public transportation that could have economic benefits to millions of people. The penalty is for the enormous cost of holding the rest of society back. The person who has such little regard for their fellow man is the one who is letting the few ruin society for the many.
- senordevnyc 6mo ago
  You can make this kind of specious argument for any infraction, no matter how minor. Hard pass on your ridiculous dystopia.
  - charcircuit 6mo ago
    Living in a society where you don't have to worry about people stealing, being violent, doing drugs, scamming you, breaking into your car, etc sounds like the opposite of a dystopia.
    - senordevnyc 6mo ago
      Yeah, but you mentioned none of those things, instead you suggested a 10+ year sentence is reasonable for people who are too “noisy”. I assume you’d recommend slow torture and then the murder of their entire family if someone dared to actually “do drugs”. Fortunately, your views are wildly extreme and unconstitutional. Regardless, I hope you find some empathy and some peace out there.
      - charcircuit 6mo ago
        Having actual consequences and holding people is all related to solving these problems. In regards to doing drugs I'd prefer only the death penalty or other equivalent permanent punishment for those have used or distributed them and not the whole family. When we have a war on drugs, murder is not the correct word to use. Drug usage is an extremely fast spreading social virus that needs to be immediately and swiftly snuffed out. >your views are wildly extreme and unconstitutional If having properly waited consequences to people's negative actions is considered unconstitutional than I believe the constitution should be changed as it is allowing society to be held back. I see nothing fortunate about allowing people to not have to be responsible for their actions that have negatively impacted society. I hope you too find some empathy.

charcircuit 6mo ago

>for ten years Or longer if they show they are unable to reform while in prison. >penalty for being “noisy” on a train That is ignoring the second order effects of the situation. This noise is holding back the flywheel of public transportation that could have economic benefits to millions of people. The penalty is for the enormous cost of holding the rest of society back. The person who has such little regard for their fellow man is the one who is letting the few ruin society for the many.

senordevnyc 6mo ago
You can make this kind of specious argument for any infraction, no matter how minor. Hard pass on your ridiculous dystopia.
- charcircuit 6mo ago
  Living in a society where you don't have to worry about people stealing, being violent, doing drugs, scamming you, breaking into your car, etc sounds like the opposite of a dystopia.
  - senordevnyc 6mo ago
    Yeah, but you mentioned none of those things, instead you suggested a 10+ year sentence is reasonable for people who are too “noisy”. I assume you’d recommend slow torture and then the murder of their entire family if someone dared to actually “do drugs”. Fortunately, your views are wildly extreme and unconstitutional. Regardless, I hope you find some empathy and some peace out there.
    - charcircuit 6mo ago
      Having actual consequences and holding people is all related to solving these problems. In regards to doing drugs I'd prefer only the death penalty or other equivalent permanent punishment for those have used or distributed them and not the whole family. When we have a war on drugs, murder is not the correct word to use. Drug usage is an extremely fast spreading social virus that needs to be immediately and swiftly snuffed out. >your views are wildly extreme and unconstitutional If having properly waited consequences to people's negative actions is considered unconstitutional than I believe the constitution should be changed as it is allowing society to be held back. I see nothing fortunate about allowing people to not have to be responsible for their actions that have negatively impacted society. I hope you too find some empathy.