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This is such a weird prompt even without the file edit misunderstanding. Analyze if it's malware how exactly? On every single file that gets read? Doing that wi

This is such a weird prompt even without the file edit misunderstanding. Analyze if it's malware how exactly? On every single file that gets read? Doing that with enough diligence to be meaningful is going to at least like 2x the amount of processing needed, and fill the context with a bunch of tangential reasoning about malware patterns. This smacks of dumb vibe coding. "I got told to make sure claude couldn't be used to develop malware, ok 'claude pls no develop malware'"

derefr 6mo ago
> Analyze if it's malware how exactly? Maybe the repo/worktree is named my-big-evil-virus-trojan-malware-worm?
- hansvm 6mo ago
  Been there, done that, and Windows feels the need to delete such files from _flash drives_ you dare to attach to the machine.
  - 3eb7988a1663 6mo ago
    This is amusing to me. Is there a list of extra naughty filenames? How invasive is the scan? If I create a new file with a cursed word, with this get locked into virus-scanner purgatory or is the deep locking only for external media? Will it get mad if I mount a CD full of virus names?
    - taylorfinley 6mo ago
      Don't have too much fun with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file
      - tetha 6mo ago
        Do have way too much fun with EICAR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIcbAMO6sxo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIcbAMO6sxo This guy put the EICAR test string into a barcode and started to scan it on various systems, with rather funny effects.
imron 6mo ago
> Analyze if it's malware how exactly? By spending thousands and thousands of tokens of course :-)
silverwind 6mo ago
Could that be the explanation for the recently increased token use?
AlienRobot 6mo ago
>Analyze if it's malware how exactly? Based on the vibes, I guess.
- 2ndorderthought 6mo ago
  Isn't this how people have always done it. Me and my boss when we are testing 3rd party binaries we open them in note pad first. Browse through the bits, ctrl f for "virus" or "Russia" get a general feel for how safe it is. I know some people right click and inspect the properties but that's not thorough enough for this digital age.
whateveracct 6mo ago
It's proof that Anthropic is high on their own supply. I've heard them described as data science script kiddies with inflated egos and it seems spot-on.
- deaux 6mo ago
  What a joke. If "Anthropic is just a bunch of script kiddies" then everyone is, considering dozens of billions pored into beating their models yet they're still the go-to for coding and have been for quite a while now. Just a nonsensical thing to say.
  - 2ndorderthought 6mo ago
    They got dethroned by some random Chinese company this month again. I don't think they are script kiddies but I think they have a moat on gpus. The US is doing everything to make it so hard for other countries to compete. And yet, with everything stacked against all these other companies, and with way way less money and way less fancy researchers they get beat over and over again. Usually by companies who AI isn't even their main product. Actually Alibaba dethroned sonnet with a model that's like 1/100th the size and can run on commodity hardware this month too. So they do look kind of silly... Definitely not script kiddies, but the way the researchers get managed makes them look goofy and sloppy and not interested in benefitting the consumer.
    - DANmode 6mo ago
      > Actually Alibaba dethroned sonnet In a benchmark? or real-world ranking of some kind?
      - 2ndorderthought 6mo ago
        Benchmarks and some real world anecdotes. There's a table on this page https://www.buildfastwithai.com/blogs/qwen3-6-35b-a3b-review https://www.buildfastwithai.com/blogs/qwen3-6-35b-a3b-review But most of the article is slop. Some mostly humans discussing it https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1so1533/qwen36_this_is_it/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1so1533/qwen36_...
gpm 6mo ago
> and fill the context with a bunch of tangential reasoning about malware patterns. The particularly bizarre part is that there is absolutely no reason to do this. They could do the exact same analysis, and if it doesn't say to reject rewind to before they asked to do the analysis and keep going...
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zmmmmm 6mo ago
You've just flashed a future before my eyes where now the IT security team is forcing 50k tokens of security prevention context mandatorily into every prompt we issue. Harks back to the days when half your system memory and CPU was devoted to the continuously running virus checker.

derefr 6mo ago

> Analyze if it's malware how exactly? Maybe the repo/worktree is named my-big-evil-virus-trojan-malware-worm?

hansvm 6mo ago
Been there, done that, and Windows feels the need to delete such files from _flash drives_ you dare to attach to the machine.
- 3eb7988a1663 6mo ago
  This is amusing to me. Is there a list of extra naughty filenames? How invasive is the scan? If I create a new file with a cursed word, with this get locked into virus-scanner purgatory or is the deep locking only for external media? Will it get mad if I mount a CD full of virus names?
  - taylorfinley 6mo ago
    Don't have too much fun with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file
    - tetha 6mo ago
      Do have way too much fun with EICAR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIcbAMO6sxo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIcbAMO6sxo This guy put the EICAR test string into a barcode and started to scan it on various systems, with rather funny effects.

imron 6mo ago

> Analyze if it's malware how exactly? By spending thousands and thousands of tokens of course :-)

silverwind 6mo ago

Could that be the explanation for the recently increased token use?

AlienRobot 6mo ago

>Analyze if it's malware how exactly? Based on the vibes, I guess.

2ndorderthought 6mo ago
Isn't this how people have always done it. Me and my boss when we are testing 3rd party binaries we open them in note pad first. Browse through the bits, ctrl f for "virus" or "Russia" get a general feel for how safe it is. I know some people right click and inspect the properties but that's not thorough enough for this digital age.

whateveracct 6mo ago

It's proof that Anthropic is high on their own supply. I've heard them described as data science script kiddies with inflated egos and it seems spot-on.

deaux 6mo ago
What a joke. If "Anthropic is just a bunch of script kiddies" then everyone is, considering dozens of billions pored into beating their models yet they're still the go-to for coding and have been for quite a while now. Just a nonsensical thing to say.
- 2ndorderthought 6mo ago
  They got dethroned by some random Chinese company this month again. I don't think they are script kiddies but I think they have a moat on gpus. The US is doing everything to make it so hard for other countries to compete. And yet, with everything stacked against all these other companies, and with way way less money and way less fancy researchers they get beat over and over again. Usually by companies who AI isn't even their main product. Actually Alibaba dethroned sonnet with a model that's like 1/100th the size and can run on commodity hardware this month too. So they do look kind of silly... Definitely not script kiddies, but the way the researchers get managed makes them look goofy and sloppy and not interested in benefitting the consumer.
  - DANmode 6mo ago
    > Actually Alibaba dethroned sonnet In a benchmark? or real-world ranking of some kind?
    - 2ndorderthought 6mo ago
      Benchmarks and some real world anecdotes. There's a table on this page https://www.buildfastwithai.com/blogs/qwen3-6-35b-a3b-review https://www.buildfastwithai.com/blogs/qwen3-6-35b-a3b-review But most of the article is slop. Some mostly humans discussing it https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1so1533/qwen36_this_is_it/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1so1533/qwen36_...

gpm 6mo ago

> and fill the context with a bunch of tangential reasoning about malware patterns. The particularly bizarre part is that there is absolutely no reason to do this. They could do the exact same analysis, and if it doesn't say to reject rewind to before they asked to do the analysis and keep going...

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zmmmmm 6mo ago

You've just flashed a future before my eyes where now the IT security team is forcing 50k tokens of security prevention context mandatorily into every prompt we issue. Harks back to the days when half your system memory and CPU was devoted to the continuously running virus checker.