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Trey, I'm not saying there are no risks -- there are. I promise there will be hiccups along the way, anything you mentioned could happen. As an entrepreneur, I

by wsul 14y ago

Trey, I'm not saying there are no risks -- there are. I promise there will be hiccups along the way, anything you mentioned could happen. As an entrepreneur, I work as hard as I can to mitigate these risks by having multiple mills, sewing contractors, etc. but shit WILL happen. What I meant is that, no matter what happens, I'm going to make and deliver high quality shirts. Small hiccups will happen, but the only thing that makes us fail is me giving up, and that isn't going to happen.

potatolicious 14y ago
I'm sure you mean well, but people as capable as you have gone into business with the same intentions and failed. Not to mention, the Kickstarter's "risks" section is precisely meant for what you just wrote above.
wsul 14y ago
Definitely, working on a more accurate risks section now!
- wpietri 14y ago
  I think you're getting somewhere, but I'd say you still have a ways to go. I don't back a Kickstarter campaign because I want one of the things they're selling. If I want that, I'll just wait. I do it because I want to back the venture. You write: "To build a revolutionary product, we knew we had to build a next-generation apparel manufacturer from the ground up, tailored entirely to the way men want to shop." And then your risks section is mostly about the risks of selling one batch of shirts. There is such a vast amount of hype and haziness on the Kickstarter page that I have no confidence that you guys know what you're doing. It's a five-person company that needed to raise $5,000 just to buy fabric? You guys seriously couldn't come up with that kind of dough directly? Or from friends? Or put it on your credit cards? It just makes no sense to me. I figure the reason it makes no sense is that you're not actually using Kickstarter to kick-start the company. Instead, I guess you're using Kickstarter as the pop marketing channel du jour, a way to take pre-orders and get some hype. So naturally it wouldn't make sense.
smacktoward 14y ago
shit WILL happen. The reason why the question about risks is asked is because one way you can tell a person with experience from a person without is that the person with experience can speak about risks in more detail than "shit happens." They can enumerate specific risks, make general predictions about which risks are more likely to hit them than others, and estimate the costs that would be incurred should such a hit happen. This indicates that the person has been around the block a few times and knows how to differentiate between large, real, business-killing risks and more theoretical ones. The opposite approach is to make bold statements like "no matter what happens, I'm going to make and deliver high quality shirts" with an obligatory disclaimer like "small hiccups will happen" tacked on afterwards. This communicates that you're aware that risks exist, but not what exactly they are, or which ones are the most dangerous to your business. Which sends the message that you haven't been around the block a few times. To be frank, it sounds like amateur hour. It doesn't surprise me that a potential backer would prefer the first type of response over the second. I would too.
- wsul 14y ago
  I posted an updated Risks section and will be continuing to add to it and edit. Any feedback very welcome!

by wsul 14y ago

potatolicious 14y ago

I'm sure you mean well, but people as capable as you have gone into business with the same intentions and failed. Not to mention, the Kickstarter's "risks" section is precisely meant for what you just wrote above.

wsul 14y ago

Definitely, working on a more accurate risks section now!

wpietri 14y ago
I think you're getting somewhere, but I'd say you still have a ways to go. I don't back a Kickstarter campaign because I want one of the things they're selling. If I want that, I'll just wait. I do it because I want to back the venture. You write: "To build a revolutionary product, we knew we had to build a next-generation apparel manufacturer from the ground up, tailored entirely to the way men want to shop." And then your risks section is mostly about the risks of selling one batch of shirts. There is such a vast amount of hype and haziness on the Kickstarter page that I have no confidence that you guys know what you're doing. It's a five-person company that needed to raise $5,000 just to buy fabric? You guys seriously couldn't come up with that kind of dough directly? Or from friends? Or put it on your credit cards? It just makes no sense to me. I figure the reason it makes no sense is that you're not actually using Kickstarter to kick-start the company. Instead, I guess you're using Kickstarter as the pop marketing channel du jour, a way to take pre-orders and get some hype. So naturally it wouldn't make sense.

smacktoward 14y ago

shit WILL happen. The reason why the question about risks is asked is because one way you can tell a person with experience from a person without is that the person with experience can speak about risks in more detail than "shit happens." They can enumerate specific risks, make general predictions about which risks are more likely to hit them than others, and estimate the costs that would be incurred should such a hit happen. This indicates that the person has been around the block a few times and knows how to differentiate between large, real, business-killing risks and more theoretical ones. The opposite approach is to make bold statements like "no matter what happens, I'm going to make and deliver high quality shirts" with an obligatory disclaimer like "small hiccups will happen" tacked on afterwards. This communicates that you're aware that risks exist, but not what exactly they are, or which ones are the most dangerous to your business. Which sends the message that you haven't been around the block a few times. To be frank, it sounds like amateur hour. It doesn't surprise me that a potential backer would prefer the first type of response over the second. I would too.

wsul 14y ago
I posted an updated Risks section and will be continuing to add to it and edit. Any feedback very welcome!