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I’m not sure why a model needs to be hosted in order to make network calls?

hansvm 6mo ago
Is there a library of good tools for LLMs to call? I have to imagine the bot-detection avoidance mechanisms are a major engineering effort and not likely to work out of the box with a simple harness and random local LLM.
- ossa-ma 6mo ago
  Even the hosted ones are blocked from searching certain sites, for example Claude is banned from searching Reddit: `Error: "The following domains are not accessible to our user agent: ['reddit.com']."`
- wyre 6mo ago
  Tavily, Exa, Firecrawl, Perplexity, and Linkup are all tools for agents to search the web. I’ve been building a harness the past few months and supports them all out of the box with an API key.
  - goosejuice 6mo ago
    Kagi also has an API. People who hate ads are probably the same folk that should be paying for Kagi. That's the sane alternative world where companies respect their users.
    - wyre 6mo ago
      Oh, you got me so excited. I've had a Kagi sub for 3 years, but their API is still in closed beta. I guess I could (and should reach out and ask for access).
  - lukewarm707 6mo ago
    be warned though: firecrawl: "if you post content or intellectual property within the Services or give us Feedback about the Services, you hereby grant to us a worldwide, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, modify, publish, translate and distribute any content that you submit in any form [...] You also grant to us the right to sub-license these rights" exa: "Query Data is used to improve our products and technology, including by training and fine-tuning models that power our Services" perplexity: "Perplexity may retain, copy, distribute and otherwise use Search Data for its lawful business purposes, including the improvement and development of products and services." linkup: "Client grants Linkup a worldwide right to use, reproduce and modify the Client Data, including prompts, for the purposes of providing, maintaining, developing, training" tavily: "we may use certain portions of your query data to improve our responses to future queries"..."We may share your query data with third-party search index providers (e.g., Google)"
- gbear605 6mo ago
  If your volume is low enough, it should be pretty fine. It can just piggy back onto your personal browser cookies for Cloudflare.

Is there a library of good tools for LLMs to call? I have to imagine the bot-detection avoidance mechanisms are a major engineering effort and not likely to work out of the box with a simple harness and random local LLM.

ossa-ma 6mo ago
Even the hosted ones are blocked from searching certain sites, for example Claude is banned from searching Reddit: `Error: "The following domains are not accessible to our user agent: ['reddit.com']."`
wyre 6mo ago
Tavily, Exa, Firecrawl, Perplexity, and Linkup are all tools for agents to search the web. I’ve been building a harness the past few months and supports them all out of the box with an API key.
- goosejuice 6mo ago
  Kagi also has an API. People who hate ads are probably the same folk that should be paying for Kagi. That's the sane alternative world where companies respect their users.
  - wyre 6mo ago
    Oh, you got me so excited. I've had a Kagi sub for 3 years, but their API is still in closed beta. I guess I could (and should reach out and ask for access).
- lukewarm707 6mo ago
  be warned though: firecrawl: "if you post content or intellectual property within the Services or give us Feedback about the Services, you hereby grant to us a worldwide, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, modify, publish, translate and distribute any content that you submit in any form [...] You also grant to us the right to sub-license these rights" exa: "Query Data is used to improve our products and technology, including by training and fine-tuning models that power our Services" perplexity: "Perplexity may retain, copy, distribute and otherwise use Search Data for its lawful business purposes, including the improvement and development of products and services." linkup: "Client grants Linkup a worldwide right to use, reproduce and modify the Client Data, including prompts, for the purposes of providing, maintaining, developing, training" tavily: "we may use certain portions of your query data to improve our responses to future queries"..."We may share your query data with third-party search index providers (e.g., Google)"
gbear605 6mo ago
If your volume is low enough, it should be pretty fine. It can just piggy back onto your personal browser cookies for Cloudflare.