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i think your underwstimating the anticheat value that still exists. many of the online games are trash when theres not strict cheat control.

johng 6mo ago
This. There are a lot of online games I loved playing but the cheating got so bad it made it impossible to play. MW1, MW2, Battlefield, CS, etc... you could see the wallhacks and aimbots taking over every lobby. I eventually stopped playing. I tried using Consoles for online gaming after that but never really got into using joysticks.... still prefer mouse and keyboard. Now I play limited games where the cheating isn't quite that rampant.
- jospeh554 6mo ago
  Im not a big gamer, but playing GTA Online, and getting taken out as soon as you spawn. Or items just spawning in front of you, like ramps. REALLY ruins the experience
  - ChoGGi 6mo ago
    Or everyone in the lobby getting nuked over and over. Or trying to do heists and having a cheater in every session. I'd like to play the game again but it's just not fun.
- trallnag 6mo ago
  There are still some servers online for games like the first CoD or United Offensive. No hackers as far I can tell anymore. They have all moved on
MrDrMcCoy 6mo ago
Run anti-cheat server-side. Give us private servers again. There's no reason we should have to put up with client-side rootkits written by non-kernel-devs to play a game.
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- will4274 6mo ago
  It's not possible, technically, to run effective anti-cheat server-side. Clients need precise enemy location data for things like sound effects. The server can't tell if the client is using the data for unfair purposes or not.
  - sadeshmukh 6mo ago
    Once the data is sent to the client, in an untrusted setting, all bets are off. Not your hardware, no control over it.
  - MrDrMcCoy 6mo ago
    Too bad. It's not possible for rootkits to be a good idea for a video game.
- eikenberry 6mo ago
  Cheating is a social issue, not a technical one. Communities are the solution. Private servers are a nice way to do this and do still exist in places. My favorite online game uses them along with server side anti-cheat and while cheating occasionally happens, it has never been an ongoing issue. I've maybe seen a cheater once or twice in all my many hours playing the game over 10 years (elite dangerous, in case you were curious).
- ThatPlayer 6mo ago
  Community servers don't want server-side anti-cheat either. Hell they invented client-side anti-cheats back in the day. Even current day community servers like Face-IT have additional anti-cheats, not less. Same with modded GTAV FiveM (even before the main game added anti-cheats)
- not_a9 6mo ago
  >written by non-kernel-devs What exactly separates a kernel dev from a non-kernel dev?
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johng 6mo ago

This. There are a lot of online games I loved playing but the cheating got so bad it made it impossible to play. MW1, MW2, Battlefield, CS, etc... you could see the wallhacks and aimbots taking over every lobby. I eventually stopped playing. I tried using Consoles for online gaming after that but never really got into using joysticks.... still prefer mouse and keyboard. Now I play limited games where the cheating isn't quite that rampant.

jospeh554 6mo ago
Im not a big gamer, but playing GTA Online, and getting taken out as soon as you spawn. Or items just spawning in front of you, like ramps. REALLY ruins the experience
- ChoGGi 6mo ago
  Or everyone in the lobby getting nuked over and over. Or trying to do heists and having a cheater in every session. I'd like to play the game again but it's just not fun.
trallnag 6mo ago
There are still some servers online for games like the first CoD or United Offensive. No hackers as far I can tell anymore. They have all moved on

MrDrMcCoy 6mo ago

Run anti-cheat server-side. Give us private servers again. There's no reason we should have to put up with client-side rootkits written by non-kernel-devs to play a game.

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will4274 6mo ago
It's not possible, technically, to run effective anti-cheat server-side. Clients need precise enemy location data for things like sound effects. The server can't tell if the client is using the data for unfair purposes or not.
- sadeshmukh 6mo ago
  Once the data is sent to the client, in an untrusted setting, all bets are off. Not your hardware, no control over it.
- MrDrMcCoy 6mo ago
  Too bad. It's not possible for rootkits to be a good idea for a video game.
eikenberry 6mo ago
Cheating is a social issue, not a technical one. Communities are the solution. Private servers are a nice way to do this and do still exist in places. My favorite online game uses them along with server side anti-cheat and while cheating occasionally happens, it has never been an ongoing issue. I've maybe seen a cheater once or twice in all my many hours playing the game over 10 years (elite dangerous, in case you were curious).
ThatPlayer 6mo ago
Community servers don't want server-side anti-cheat either. Hell they invented client-side anti-cheats back in the day. Even current day community servers like Face-IT have additional anti-cheats, not less. Same with modded GTAV FiveM (even before the main game added anti-cheats)
not_a9 6mo ago
>written by non-kernel-devs What exactly separates a kernel dev from a non-kernel dev?

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