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>The openness, freedom, customizability and accessibility (money wise) were the tenets that differentiated Android from Apple devices. i have never heard someo

>The openness, freedom, customizability and accessibility (money wise) were the tenets that differentiated Android from Apple devices. i have never heard someone outside of tech circles (e.g. HN) mention openness, freedom, or customization, even as a passing comment. they use a phone to access mainstream apps (youtube, instagram, reddit, maybe their bank) and text/call. mention "apk" or "fdroid" and their eyes start to glaze over. cheaper devices, sure, i agree with that as being the differentiator to the average non-techie. the rest is, at least in my experience, absolutely a "HN view".

jMyles 6mo ago
> i have never heard someone outside of tech circles (e.g. HN) mention openness, freedom, or customization, even as a passing comment. And how do you qualify "(e.g. HN)" for this purpose? Places where people value openness? These feels like a no-true-scotsman.
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dartharva 6mo ago
> i have never heard someone outside of tech circles... mention "apk" or "fdroid" and their eyes start to glaze over My no-tech middle-aged uncles and aunts know what apks are, and that you need to install apps from somewhere apart from the main Play store if you want them to have no ads.
someguyornotidk 6mo ago
My brother, who's relationship with tech barely extends to the latest samsung flagship, threw away his iphone because he couldn't get all the apps he wanted. I think _your_ impression of people outside tech circles is as HN-centric as it gets :)