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> Waymo shows up with a convenient solution to both problems. That's absurd. Waymo exacerbates the problem. It doesn't provide public transport. You get unlim

• jonas21 6mo ago
  > You get unlimited travel for $100/month on Trimet. Only because the government is subsidizing 90% of TriMet's operating costs. It might be interesting to see what sort of system Waymo could build with a similar subsidy... but that's never going to happen.
  • array_key_first 6mo ago
    Waymo is subsidized. They operate vehicles without paying for the cost of the road, land, or surrounding parking. That's like owning a train system and not paying for the tracks. Yeah... that's a huge part of it. There's also indirect subsidies, for example the cost of land and housing. Cars are extremely space inefficient, so they encourage poor urban design that results in huge amounts of land wasted. Well... the land and property that's left is then inflated in price. You could consider that cost difference as a subsidy to all drivers.
    • xnx 6mo ago
      > They operate vehicles without paying for the cost of the road Everyone uses roads, and everyone pays for roads. If you buy a potato from a grocery store, part of the money paid for fuel for the delivery truck. The tax on that fuel paid for part of the road.
      • array_key_first 6mo ago
        Right, which is a subsidy.