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> I think a new GitHub will emerge and when it's just right, will grow like wildfire (like OpenClaw, or even GitHub itself did during the SVN and SourceForge er
by MarsIronPI 5mo ago
> I think a new GitHub will emerge and when it's just right, will grow like wildfire (like OpenClaw, or even GitHub itself did during the SVN and SourceForge era). And many are already trying to be that new GitHub.
Really? I can only think of two: Codeberg and Sourceforge. Which are both great, but that's not what I'd call "many".
- Cthulhu_ 5mo agoGitlab, Bitbucket, Gitea
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- MarsIronPI 5mo agoOh, I'd forgotten about GitLab and Bitbucket. How is Bitbucket doing these days?
- NewJazz 5mo agoGitlab? Three distinct codebases is quite a lot to be honest. Especially when Forgejo has the lineage of Gitea and Gogs in its wake.
- saghm 5mo agoAt least as far as I can tell, Gitlab seems to be used a lot more than the other two. I don't think I've ever gone to a page for a SourceForge project that was created after maybe 2012 or so, and although it's possible I've looked at a project on Codeberg or Forgejo, I can't think of a single one off the top of my head. Meanwhile, I've run into projects on Gitlab (either gitlab.com itself or a self-hosted version) at multiple employers and various Linux codebases and packages (Plasma and Gnome desktop environments and other various windowing-related software, Arch Linux package sources, etc.). I guess it's possible that my experience is wildly different than others, but if we're talking about volume of usage today rather than individual preferences, it's kind of shocking for me that someone wouldn't think to reference Gitlab at all in the list of potential successors, let alone not mention it literally first.
- MarsIronPI 5mo agoNote that SourceForge is very different from Sourcehut. Sourcehut is a self‑hostable software forge that can be interacted with by email even without an account. I'd forgotten about GitLab. I guess it's annoying enough that I repressed it.
- saghm 5mo agoI'm a bit confused; from what I'm seeing, no one mentioned SourceHut until now. Did you make a typo before? > Really? I can only think of two: Codeberg and Sourceforge. Which are both great, but that's not what I'd call "many".
- MarsIronPI 5mo agoOh shoot, I must have been more tired than I thought. I definitely meant Sourcehut, not Sourceforge.
- foresto 5mo agoGitlab's interface makes me want to cry every time I have to use it. I would not recommend it to someone who misses classic GitHub. Codeberg/Forgejo/Gitea would be a much better match.
- NewJazz 5mo agoWhat, cause it is too busy?
- foresto 5mo agoI haven't made a comprehensive list, but off the top of my head: - frequently needed navigation links buried within menus within other menus - menus labeled by mysterious icons, sometimes with mysterious text, sometimes with no text at all - authentication system that has failed me in a variety of ways over the years, even locking me out of an account in one case - client-side script execution required to do anything all, even simply display a file As I said, I haven't kept a list, but GitLab is very much in the category of interfaces that were built by javascript fanatics who don't understand (or don't care about) ergonomics or privacy. I accept that not everyone is bothered by its many problems, but I avoid it when I can.
- MarsIronPI 5mo agoDoh, I completely forgot about GitLab. OK so that's 3 services. I'm only counting hosted services that aim at serving all comers and providing an entire platform similar to GitHub. Individual disconnected instances, while useful, aren't a replacement for the social aspect of GitHub.
- NewJazz 5mo agoI think both gitlab and forgejo are working on federation. https://forgefed.org/ https://forgefed.org/
- palata 5mo agoSourceforge???
- NewJazz 5mo agoI am pretty sure they were talking about sourcehut...
- MarsIronPI 5mo agoI was yes, I must have been more tired than I realized.
- gamander 5mo agoAtomGit