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> Anthropic makes a profit on those tokens Citation needed. Anthropic does not have public books

• libraryofbabel 6mo ago
  Their CEO is on record as saying this. You may think he's lying, but that's just your opinion; given the pricing and how it stacks relative to the pricing of inference providers of comparable open source models (who are certainly charging above cost!), I am inclined to believe Anthropic on this.
  • hyperadvanced 6mo ago
    Why would you believe a tech CEO who has a vested interest in the untruth but can skirt fiduciary duties by speaking cleverly.
    • bostik 6mo ago
      Maybe because Anthropic are trying to get to an IPO and everything is securities fraud? If their CEO was just flapping his mouth without any other comparable baseline, it'd probably be different. But as the GP points out, open-weight model providers are charging comparable rates and very likely have positive profit margins. That would imply that with API pricing tokens are sold at above cost. That cost may well be "inference only", so excludes everything apart from hardware and power. Whether that's enough to cover the enormous training costs and other overheads is a different question.
    • timschmidt 6mo ago
      He just told you. Because overwhelming public evidence supports the claim. Especially the pricing of open weight model inference. Why do you allow a prejudice to overshadow evidence?
    • JohnHaugeland 6mo ago
      why would we believe skeptical randos on social media? he has access to the real numbers and a legal risk from lying publicly. it does him no good to lie about this.