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there are effectively no passenger trains in America and effectively no political will to expand them. Busses take multiple times as long for the same trip comp

there are effectively no passenger trains in America and effectively no political will to expand them. Busses take multiple times as long for the same trip compared to a car. This doesnt even get into the anti-social behavior present on both. Given these facts, it is not wild at all to prefer cars (self driving or not) vs alternate transportation methods

mmooss 5mo ago
> Busses take multiple times as long for the same trip compared to a car. Buses can be slower, but I don't even know of a 2x difference. For longer trips they can travel 24/7. And overall they are more efficient because you can do other things instead of driving. > This doesnt even get into the anti-social behavior present on both I don't have a problem on buses and trains. I have more problem with other drivers when I drive. Your comment is, ironically, antisocial.
- rootusrootus 5mo ago
  > For longer trips they can travel 24/7 That sounds like hell. Bus seats are just as tight as coach class airline seats, and unlike trains there isn't even an option to pay exorbitant pricing for a sleeper compartment.
  - saalweachter 5mo ago
    Napaway briefly offered ticketed intercity service on busses with 18 sleeper pods, but has (temporarily) discontinued it in favor of focusing on charter service.
  - mmooss 5mo ago
    I guess everything is hell, if you feel like writing that. > Bus seats are just as tight as coach class airline seats IME bus seats are first class in padding and support, a bit wider than coach, and with more leg room (though I'd need to measure to confirm). Much more comfortable than airplane coach - and without the air pressure, vibration / noise, and humidity problems. > exorbitant pricing for a sleeper compartment It just depends on the train, how far ahead you pay, etc.
linkregister 5mo ago
MARTA (Atlanta regional transit) heavy rail average daily ridership is 80,000 people [1]. 1. https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/2025-Q4-Ridership-APTA.pdf https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/2025-Q4-Ride...

mmooss 5mo ago

> Busses take multiple times as long for the same trip compared to a car. Buses can be slower, but I don't even know of a 2x difference. For longer trips they can travel 24/7. And overall they are more efficient because you can do other things instead of driving. > This doesnt even get into the anti-social behavior present on both I don't have a problem on buses and trains. I have more problem with other drivers when I drive. Your comment is, ironically, antisocial.

rootusrootus 5mo ago
> For longer trips they can travel 24/7 That sounds like hell. Bus seats are just as tight as coach class airline seats, and unlike trains there isn't even an option to pay exorbitant pricing for a sleeper compartment.
- saalweachter 5mo ago
  Napaway briefly offered ticketed intercity service on busses with 18 sleeper pods, but has (temporarily) discontinued it in favor of focusing on charter service.
- mmooss 5mo ago
  I guess everything is hell, if you feel like writing that. > Bus seats are just as tight as coach class airline seats IME bus seats are first class in padding and support, a bit wider than coach, and with more leg room (though I'd need to measure to confirm). Much more comfortable than airplane coach - and without the air pressure, vibration / noise, and humidity problems. > exorbitant pricing for a sleeper compartment It just depends on the train, how far ahead you pay, etc.

linkregister 5mo ago

MARTA (Atlanta regional transit) heavy rail average daily ridership is 80,000 people [1]. 1. https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/2025-Q4-Ridership-APTA.pdf https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/2025-Q4-Ride...