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To toss them because the level of damage they have done it's astounding. Tons of companies are still fixing the losses from vibe coding. What we need it's bett

by anthk 6mo ago

To toss them because the level of damage they have done it's astounding. Tons of companies are still fixing the losses from vibe coding. What we need it's better code analizers, lexers and the like. And LLM's are practically the opposite because they can't never, ever give a concise answer by design. Worse, they rot over time. https://smsk.dev/2026/04/26/ai-cannot-self-improve-and-math-behind-proves-it/ https://smsk.dev/2026/04/26/ai-cannot-self-improve-and-math-...

anthonyrstevens 6mo ago
>> the level of damage they have done it's astounding. Tons of companies are still fixing the losses from vibe coding. This sounds like unsubstantiated hyperbole - can we keep HN grounded in reality, please? My alternative hypothesis - you don't like agentic coding or maybe LLMs in general. Not helpful for the group.
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nh23423fefe 6mo ago
That link doesn't support your statement. It's analysis is bad and irrelevant.
- weakfish 6mo ago
  Why is the analysis bad? Burden is on you to explain that.
  - nh23423fefe 6mo ago
    no, lazy linkers don't create obligations.
iLemming 6mo ago
> Tons of companies are still fixing the losses from vibe coding. Well, you have to separate "future of" from "ensuing damage". This is similar to the fishing industry. Fishermen in the past used spears, rods, small nets, nowadays annual national catch statistics are reported in kilotonnes. They are destroying the ocean floor, causing massive extinction of species, causing irreversible damage. Yet, you can't argue looking 100-150 years back that industrial fishing was not "the future of the fishing industry". That is also why programmers won't ever disappear because of AI progress. Just like we still need fishermen, we'd need programmers. The sad truth about this is that soon we truly may have no need for fishermen, because there's no fish left in the ocean.
- anthk 6mo ago
  No, this is like fishing with dynamite.
  - iLemming 6mo ago
    Hmm... it's hard to imagine that fishing with dynamite ever caused species extinction; trawling industry definitely did. I don't think it's a fitting analogy, but I get what you're trying to say. I'm not arguing about the damage. The damage this human invention will cause is guaranteed. Just like plastics have. The answer to that is not "ban plastics completely" - kinda late for that, innit? The answer is "put resources into plastic research, make safe plastic possible". Maybe if we make safe, better AI, it will help with the plastic? If there's anything I've learned about humans - first, we probably cause a lot of damage.

by anthk 6mo ago

anthonyrstevens 6mo ago

>> the level of damage they have done it's astounding. Tons of companies are still fixing the losses from vibe coding. This sounds like unsubstantiated hyperbole - can we keep HN grounded in reality, please? My alternative hypothesis - you don't like agentic coding or maybe LLMs in general. Not helpful for the group.

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nh23423fefe 6mo ago

That link doesn't support your statement. It's analysis is bad and irrelevant.

weakfish 6mo ago
Why is the analysis bad? Burden is on you to explain that.
- nh23423fefe 6mo ago
  no, lazy linkers don't create obligations.

iLemming 6mo ago

> Tons of companies are still fixing the losses from vibe coding. Well, you have to separate "future of" from "ensuing damage". This is similar to the fishing industry. Fishermen in the past used spears, rods, small nets, nowadays annual national catch statistics are reported in kilotonnes. They are destroying the ocean floor, causing massive extinction of species, causing irreversible damage. Yet, you can't argue looking 100-150 years back that industrial fishing was not "the future of the fishing industry". That is also why programmers won't ever disappear because of AI progress. Just like we still need fishermen, we'd need programmers. The sad truth about this is that soon we truly may have no need for fishermen, because there's no fish left in the ocean.

anthk 6mo ago
No, this is like fishing with dynamite.
- iLemming 6mo ago
  Hmm... it's hard to imagine that fishing with dynamite ever caused species extinction; trawling industry definitely did. I don't think it's a fitting analogy, but I get what you're trying to say. I'm not arguing about the damage. The damage this human invention will cause is guaranteed. Just like plastics have. The answer to that is not "ban plastics completely" - kinda late for that, innit? The answer is "put resources into plastic research, make safe plastic possible". Maybe if we make safe, better AI, it will help with the plastic? If there's anything I've learned about humans - first, we probably cause a lot of damage.