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> The median American lives in a city and has exposure to Muslims and is most likely not Islamophobic Most Islamophobic people I know live in cities. Is there

> The median American lives in a city and has exposure to Muslims and is most likely not Islamophobic Most Islamophobic people I know live in cities. Is there really that much of a change related to urbanism for Islamophobia, one you adjust for political alignment and religiousness? For reference, this is the America I see every day: https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/epic-citys-vision-sparks-backlash-political-scrutiny-texas/287-e4ac8968-cfe3-4e1c-b157-5de82329833b https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/epic-citys-vision-sp... Collin County is >90% "urban", as much as what counts for urbanism in the US.

mandevil 6mo ago
Over the past 17 years I've lived in three houses (in the suburbs of two different cities in two different states- one East Coast, one land-locked) and an apartment in NYC (obviously also East Coast). In all of the East Coast spots (urban and suburban) there was a mosque closer than the nearest McDonald's. For the land-locked state suburb the mosque was 2 miles away and the nearest McDonald's was 0.75 miles away. I'm not selecting these houses to be convenient to the Mosque- I've never been in any of those Mosques. It's just an artifact of living in the sort of neighborhoods that I like. I tend to agree that it isn't urban/rural per se, as much as it's Openness of the Big Five personality traits. Which, at least in the US, tends to be correlated with a lot of other things (college education, density of living, etc.).
- vel0city 6mo ago
  IRT the "college education", Collin County is statistically higher educated than most of the country demographically-speaking. >56% achieved bachelors or higher compared to NYC at ~42%. For reference, Santa Clara County in California is also at 56%, so about as educated as the area with Apple, Google, and Facebook at least as far as that statistic analyzes. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/collincountytexas,newyorkcitynewyork/PST120224 https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/collincountytex... Many people I've heard say extremely Islamophobic things have masters degrees and higher. I'd be interested in seeing real statistics on it.
femiagbabiaka 6mo ago
Old but still good: https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2018/10/16/fear-of-muslims-in-american-society/ https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2018/10/16/fear-of-musli...
- vel0city 6mo ago
  Hey, thanks for sharing some real data, I appreciate it.

mandevil 6mo ago

Over the past 17 years I've lived in three houses (in the suburbs of two different cities in two different states- one East Coast, one land-locked) and an apartment in NYC (obviously also East Coast). In all of the East Coast spots (urban and suburban) there was a mosque closer than the nearest McDonald's. For the land-locked state suburb the mosque was 2 miles away and the nearest McDonald's was 0.75 miles away. I'm not selecting these houses to be convenient to the Mosque- I've never been in any of those Mosques. It's just an artifact of living in the sort of neighborhoods that I like. I tend to agree that it isn't urban/rural per se, as much as it's Openness of the Big Five personality traits. Which, at least in the US, tends to be correlated with a lot of other things (college education, density of living, etc.).

vel0city 6mo ago
IRT the "college education", Collin County is statistically higher educated than most of the country demographically-speaking. >56% achieved bachelors or higher compared to NYC at ~42%. For reference, Santa Clara County in California is also at 56%, so about as educated as the area with Apple, Google, and Facebook at least as far as that statistic analyzes. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/collincountytexas,newyorkcitynewyork/PST120224 https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/collincountytex... Many people I've heard say extremely Islamophobic things have masters degrees and higher. I'd be interested in seeing real statistics on it.

femiagbabiaka 6mo ago

Old but still good: https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2018/10/16/fear-of-muslims-in-american-society/ https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2018/10/16/fear-of-musli...

vel0city 6mo ago
Hey, thanks for sharing some real data, I appreciate it.