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All of the backwards-looking nostalgia from all of the commenters posting so far are exactly why Apple were able to get out of the door with iPad first and slow

by nzeribe 14y ago

All of the backwards-looking nostalgia from all of the commenters posting so far are exactly why Apple were able to get out of the door with iPad first and slowly destroy Microsoft's pre-eminence. Had Redmond produced the iPad, it's users would have rejected it - and demanded a "Start" button! Quite ludicrous. Ballmer may be gutting the company of all of it's talent and slowly running it into the ground but, unbelievably, I am with him on this one.

ygra 14y ago
I'm not too sure. The overwhelming opinion seems to be that Metro works quite well on touch devices. Just forcing it onto desktop users is the actual problem.
mtgx 14y ago
The problem is Apple separated the two, with 2 separate use cases. And people bought into that. Microsoft is not doing that. They are merging the two, and pissing off a lot of people in the process. A new survey from Avast shows the same thing. What's surprising is that a third of the respondents even plan to switch to Mac next because of Windows 8: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2012/11/14/poll-shows-us-consumers-hesitant-windows-8/1700585/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2012/11/14/poll-shows-us-...
- madoublet 14y ago
  Not entirely correct, from the article "While 68% indicated they would get one of the new Windows 8 models, 30% planned to buy an Apple iPad touch tablet, and 12%, an Apple Macintosh computer." Math seems a bit off here.
danieldk 14y ago
As if there haven't been tablets with Windows and a start button ;). It's exactly the opposite, Microsoft thought they could get away with a traditional interface on a modern touch device.
Shorel 14y ago
Redmond produced good tablet PCs, that were about 1.5x the price of a comparable laptop. Apple produced a good enough tablet with about 0.5x the price of a comparable (for some uses) laptop. Pricing matters.

by nzeribe 14y ago

ygra 14y ago

I'm not too sure. The overwhelming opinion seems to be that Metro works quite well on touch devices. Just forcing it onto desktop users is the actual problem.

mtgx 14y ago

The problem is Apple separated the two, with 2 separate use cases. And people bought into that. Microsoft is not doing that. They are merging the two, and pissing off a lot of people in the process. A new survey from Avast shows the same thing. What's surprising is that a third of the respondents even plan to switch to Mac next because of Windows 8: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2012/11/14/poll-shows-us-consumers-hesitant-windows-8/1700585/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2012/11/14/poll-shows-us-...

madoublet 14y ago
Not entirely correct, from the article "While 68% indicated they would get one of the new Windows 8 models, 30% planned to buy an Apple iPad touch tablet, and 12%, an Apple Macintosh computer." Math seems a bit off here.

danieldk 14y ago

As if there haven't been tablets with Windows and a start button ;). It's exactly the opposite, Microsoft thought they could get away with a traditional interface on a modern touch device.

Shorel 14y ago

Redmond produced good tablet PCs, that were about 1.5x the price of a comparable laptop. Apple produced a good enough tablet with about 0.5x the price of a comparable (for some uses) laptop. Pricing matters.