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Ask HN: Is it just me or is Claude Code getting worse?

• jensb1 5mo ago
  Not more stupid IMO, but significnatly less token efficient or they have decreased tokens for subscription users, difficult to know.
• sovenyr 5mo ago
  can't say it become worse, but at some point it stops be so useful as it was before - it looks like magic disapear
• itdar 5mo ago
  I can't say which is better, but 4.6 was the most intense
• omer_30300 5mo ago
  Yeah buddy, Claude Code is honestly getting worse lately. It's been giving me buggy or incorrect code for my projects as well
• runjake 5mo ago
  It's not just you. It's getting much worse. There is a lot of talk on X about it, along with hypotheses and evidence-based testing.
  • mkranjec 5mo ago
    Can you provide any links to discussion?
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• lgl 5mo ago
  Due to the copilot nerfing recently I've switched to codex and gpt 5.4 (and now especially 5.5) have been doing pretty great. But even codex has these super weird time limits. It's really starting to show that these companies must have been losing a ton of money with all the recent limits and degration. I'm still on the "camp" that most of these unicorns will be F'ed by open and local models in the next few years, at least in these coding/chatbox niches and then they'll just be perpetually (re)searching for AGI :shrug:
• idempotent_ 5mo ago
  Claude the model is still insanely great IF (and perhaps, ONLY IF) you are willing to fork over the money for the API and use a harness like OpenCode. Claude Code itself is complete trash. They had a massive headstart and now are routinely lapped by open source harnesses and then they STILL double down on not allowing e.g. OpenCode usage with the Max plan. Meanwhile, OpenAI lets you use whatever harness you want and its a beast. I recently did some testing and OpenAI's Pro plan on an opencode harness (GPT 5.5 XHigh) with parallel agent delegation absolutely smokes Claude Code 4.7 Max. These days Claude Code can barely even remember its CLAUDE.MD instructions. I'd say Opus 4.7 Max API is slightly better than GPT 5.5 XHigh, but not nearly enough that the API token price is at all justified. Claude, I think is still better for business things like document generation, design, etc. especially via claude.ai interface (GDrive integrations and things like that are very useful). But for code generation and dev workflows, Claude Code is dropping the ball so hard its starting to look like a generational fumble.
  • ApolloRising 5mo ago
    Why do you feel the OpenCode harness is better than the Claude code one? Just curious what you feel it is doing better?
    • idempotent_ 5mo ago
      OpenCode harness is so good I'm surprised one of the big players hasn't bought them outright. Essentially their harness: * Removes all the system prompt cruft and bullshit that CC pumps into the prompt and pollutes context and shit like "adaptive thinking" * Is extremely good at keeping the model aligned with AGENTS.MD and opencode.json and using all the features available there (parallel agents, sub-sub agents, etc) For example, I'm working on a repo with 5 distinct components and I have a specialized agent for each component. CLAUDE.MD is just a markdown file where I say "Hey Claude always use X agent for X component. X agent has this prompt blah blah" and then pray Claude remembers to use it. opencode.json is a structured file used by the harness and it has ALWAYS coerced the model to use it, including being able for the agents to delegate subagents in parallel etc. This makes a massive difference. So if I have a feature that touches multiple components, OpenCode rips through it with the specialized subagents while Claude sits their spinning its wheels and occasionally remembering theres a specialized agent and then maybe once in a blue moon it will do it in parallel. With CC I feel like I need to do all these invocations and coercions. OpenCode, once you've got your opencode.json and agents defined, just works.
• arjun-mavonic 5mo ago
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• journal 5mo ago
  I keep telling people but no one will listen to me that these things are not sustainable and no productivity can be gotten from using these tools. You must compose your context and consume every bit as much as you are able. These agents and other things operate like a casino throwing tokens sometimes getting it right, but you will not make any meaningful progress unless you learn to control context and snowball the conversation. It's a more complex iterative process for which there is no subject. This is far more advanced level of programming allowing us to make bigger systems less complex. There's unusual ways of using this, yes. We're looking at pricing well above $10,000 / year, call me crazy you will until you'll suddenly stop when you realize I was right. There's only one way, total context control and simple interface. I had to create a simple interface because the tool I was using released an updated and I couldn't wait. So you'll all end up using something similar to what I made, with ChatGPT, to then use the API directly. Combined with VS Code makes for very easy, natural way of consuming tokens and generally work with this. You can just assume file is prompt.md, that you have such file in every directory where you intend to execute the command and make it available at path. When you ALL were paying for subscription I was paying for API costing me much less than subscription, being less stressed, knowing I don't have to worry about fog of context. I see it now, it's not sustainable. They've signed contracts they can't get out from and we're gonna have to pay, with blood, gold, or in this case, quality. You will pay, you (we) will all pay for their debts.
• SnyDi 5mo ago
  You are not crazy, Anthropic makes claude dumber everyday. Although, in a last week or so, token consumption and model intelligence improved for me.
• djyde 5mo ago
  I've switched to OpenCode and I think it's really great. The first advantage is that it can use many different models, not just Claude. The second is that I've noticed OpenCode streams out the entire reasoning process, while Claude Code doesn't show streaming of its thinking.
  • 2001zhaozhao 5mo ago
    You can enable thinking summaries in claude code using a CLI parameter
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• rosenlykke 5mo ago
  In what way is it getting worse — the model's reasoning, or your own setup drifting underneath you? My observation: same model, same task, but different CLAUDE.md / hooks / skill state produces dramatically different outputs. The hard part as a solo founder is finding the right balance between building the meta tools and making progress on the actual projects, without the meta layer drifting and quietly becoming worse over time.
  • cleverhoods 5mo ago
    I second to that. with some small caveat: reporails can help with the drifting detection a lot.
  • tstrimple 5mo ago
    My issue was with different models. Same Claude.md, hooks skills and the rest. Same task. Almost two months ago I used CC to bootstrap a headless MacBook Air with nix-darwin for management. I configured it to be an iMessage bridge as well as secondary dns for my network. All in it took about an hour. Last night same task for the same context but newer opus model. This time a freshly installed MBP that I wanted nix-darwin setup on to keep my tools / console config in sync across systems. To start with, it was trying to install some proprietary nix version and couldn’t fix a broken ssh terminal issue at all despite having a working example literally sitting right next to it with my working mba config. Latest version of CC feels lobotomized.
    • rosenlykke 5mo ago
      Fair point. I don't see it consistently myself, but there are def moments where it just stops parsing context on simple tasks/stops thinking. Not sure if it's model regression, context rot, or just prompts getting routed to a different/wrong expert in the MoE for a stretch — dunno.
      • tstrimple 5mo ago
        I've got an example that isn't just coding. I've used CC as a book recommendation engine for a few months now. Initially I had really good results. We built a SQLite database of my reading history from audible and kindle libraries and tuned it based off of my "reviews". Since Opus 4.7 it suddenly lost the ability to check the SQLite database for things I've already read before offering recommendations. The last time I interacted with it, I told it I had completed Book 2 of a series and it recommended Book 1 of the series to me. I had never previously seen Opus be so stupid with all the information available to it. Nothing changed in my configuration between when this was a useful tool and complete garbage other than the model and harness upgrades Anthropic pushed.
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