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I'm asking because I read regularly the Economist and don't feel that it's a true statement. For instance, the latest Chaguan column is quite balanced: https://

I'm asking because I read regularly the Economist and don't feel that it's a true statement. For instance, the latest Chaguan column is quite balanced: https://www.economist.com/china/2026/04/27/xi-jinping-wants-china-to-read-more-as-long-as-its-the-right-books https://www.economist.com/china/2026/04/27/xi-jinping-wants-... So yeah, if you have wold claims, you better back them with sources.

culi 6mo ago
I also regularly keep up with The Economist and other western news outlets and I completely agree with GP's impression that we see a "China is doomed" opinion piece every other month. Same with geopolitical youtubers. Obviously none of us are committed enough to this internet discussion to do a formal study to prove our impressions but I think the majority of regular readers would also agree. Asking for sources for what is common knowledge is just a silly way to shut down discussion instead of engaging with it
- Saline9515 6mo ago
  I asked for a single article representing this point of view. If it is so common, it should be easy to find? No?
  - culi 6mo ago
    Yes, you would have a very easy time finding one.
    - Saline9515 6mo ago
      If you can't show any proof or even circumstantial evidence of your theory, it's worthless and the Economist is not a China-doomer paper. The reality is that it's a lie and the Economist is quite balanced about China (even while they are banned from publishing there!). For instance, their latest cover was quite positive about the country: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/04/01/how-china-hopes-to-win-from-the-war https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/04/01/how-china-hopes...
      - culi 6mo ago
        Here bud https://old.reddit.com/r/China/comments/yzol6h/ https://old.reddit.com/r/China/comments/yzol6h/
        ch4s3 6mo ago
        Those aren't from The Economist, the articles mentioned there are from Vox, the Guardian, and Al Jazeera.
        bit-anarchist 6mo ago
        They are also 10 years old.
        ch4s3 6mo ago
        That user always does this. They make bold claims then frantically google and fail to read their own links, and it’s always in favor of China or some communist dictatorship.
        culi 6mo ago
        Are y'all seriously still on this? Here you go. The top results from a google search https://www.economist.com/leaders/2015/08/29/the-great-fall-of-china https://www.economist.com/leaders/2015/08/29/the-great-fall-... ^ they literally had a magazine cover with "GREAT FALL OF CHINA" https://www.economist.com/the-world-ahead/2025/11/12/the-chinese-economy-will-slow-in-the-year-ahead https://www.economist.com/the-world-ahead/2025/11/12/the-chi... https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/11/03/the-mystery-of-chinas-slumping-investment https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/11/03/t... https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/02/12/why-chinas-central-bank-wont-save-the-country-from-deflation https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/02/12/w... FFS none of you actually read The Economist yet I'm the one who has to google for you.
        bit-anarchist 6mo ago

culi 6mo ago

I also regularly keep up with The Economist and other western news outlets and I completely agree with GP's impression that we see a "China is doomed" opinion piece every other month. Same with geopolitical youtubers. Obviously none of us are committed enough to this internet discussion to do a formal study to prove our impressions but I think the majority of regular readers would also agree. Asking for sources for what is common knowledge is just a silly way to shut down discussion instead of engaging with it

Saline9515 6mo ago
I asked for a single article representing this point of view. If it is so common, it should be easy to find? No?
- culi 6mo ago
  Yes, you would have a very easy time finding one.
  - Saline9515 6mo ago
    If you can't show any proof or even circumstantial evidence of your theory, it's worthless and the Economist is not a China-doomer paper. The reality is that it's a lie and the Economist is quite balanced about China (even while they are banned from publishing there!). For instance, their latest cover was quite positive about the country: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/04/01/how-china-hopes-to-win-from-the-war https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/04/01/how-china-hopes...
    - culi 6mo ago
      Here bud https://old.reddit.com/r/China/comments/yzol6h/ https://old.reddit.com/r/China/comments/yzol6h/
      - ch4s3 6mo ago
        Those aren't from The Economist, the articles mentioned there are from Vox, the Guardian, and Al Jazeera.
        bit-anarchist 6mo ago
        They are also 10 years old.
        ch4s3 6mo ago
        That user always does this. They make bold claims then frantically google and fail to read their own links, and it’s always in favor of China or some communist dictatorship.
        culi 6mo ago
        Are y'all seriously still on this? Here you go. The top results from a google search https://www.economist.com/leaders/2015/08/29/the-great-fall-of-china https://www.economist.com/leaders/2015/08/29/the-great-fall-... ^ they literally had a magazine cover with "GREAT FALL OF CHINA" https://www.economist.com/the-world-ahead/2025/11/12/the-chinese-economy-will-slow-in-the-year-ahead https://www.economist.com/the-world-ahead/2025/11/12/the-chi... https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/11/03/the-mystery-of-chinas-slumping-investment https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/11/03/t... https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/02/12/why-chinas-central-bank-wont-save-the-country-from-deflation https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/02/12/w... FFS none of you actually read The Economist yet I'm the one who has to google for you.
        bit-anarchist 6mo ago