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They didn't. Apple contributed the core logic to the Wi-Fi Alliance to build Wi-Fi Aware, which they now also support.

foltik 6mo ago
Interestingly, it still took the EU to force them to actually adopt it (and open it up for apps to use) in iOS 26.
Gigachad 6mo ago
Kind of. When I looked, they added the api for devs to use on iOS, but it isn’t on macOS yet, and nothing uses it as far as I could see. It’s a future promising tech though. A much better version of Wi-Fi Direct.
throw0101c 6mo ago
PSA: * https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-aware-resources https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-aware-resources * https://developer.apple.com/documentation/WiFiAware https://developer.apple.com/documentation/WiFiAware * https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/wifi/wifi-aware https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/wifi/wifi...
- gregoriol 6mo ago
  Apple docs say iOS 26/macOS 26, that's so brand new that no apps are using it right now, will have to check that again in a few years.
max8539 6mo ago
So, should there be apps that use it to transfer files between iOS, Android, Windows, and Mac without requiring them to be on the same network?
- Asmod4n 6mo ago
  No WiFi cards for pcs support it.
  - sleepybrett 6mo ago
    it might be interesting to use unused or extra wifi cards to support this. My pc motherboard has both wifi and ethernet and I only use the ethernet. That card does absolutely nothing at all.
  - ssl-3 6mo ago
    That's not quite accurate, I don't think. I've definitely used STA and AP modes concurrently on my Windows laptop with the operating system's built-in internet connection sharing function to help troubleshoot a problem in the field. That was around a decade ago. It didn't take any extra effort on my part; I just told it to do the thing, and then it did that thing.
  - max8539 6mo ago
    Researched this for a bit: there is some hardware for PCI supporting it, but Windows 10/11 not, and Linux is still work in progress, so no real support on OS level, only for some iOS/Android devices.
    - Asmod4n 6mo ago
      Afaik the hardware supports it for a while now, but there is no firmware to expose the functionality.
- jeroenhd 6mo ago
  Google's QuickShare contains a reverse-engineered AWDL implementation that works on Pixel and a few other phones. As for WiFi NAN: support for it seems rather limited outside of iOS and Android. From what I can tell the feature is barely tested on Linux and I can't find any generic Windows APIs for it either.

Interestingly, it still took the EU to force them to actually adopt it (and open it up for apps to use) in iOS 26.

Kind of. When I looked, they added the api for devs to use on iOS, but it isn’t on macOS yet, and nothing uses it as far as I could see. It’s a future promising tech though. A much better version of Wi-Fi Direct.

throw0101c 6mo ago

PSA: * https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-aware-resources https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-aware-resources * https://developer.apple.com/documentation/WiFiAware https://developer.apple.com/documentation/WiFiAware * https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/wifi/wifi-aware https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/wifi/wifi...

gregoriol 6mo ago
Apple docs say iOS 26/macOS 26, that's so brand new that no apps are using it right now, will have to check that again in a few years.

max8539 6mo ago

So, should there be apps that use it to transfer files between iOS, Android, Windows, and Mac without requiring them to be on the same network?

Asmod4n 6mo ago
No WiFi cards for pcs support it.
- sleepybrett 6mo ago
  it might be interesting to use unused or extra wifi cards to support this. My pc motherboard has both wifi and ethernet and I only use the ethernet. That card does absolutely nothing at all.
- ssl-3 6mo ago
  That's not quite accurate, I don't think. I've definitely used STA and AP modes concurrently on my Windows laptop with the operating system's built-in internet connection sharing function to help troubleshoot a problem in the field. That was around a decade ago. It didn't take any extra effort on my part; I just told it to do the thing, and then it did that thing.
- max8539 6mo ago
  Researched this for a bit: there is some hardware for PCI supporting it, but Windows 10/11 not, and Linux is still work in progress, so no real support on OS level, only for some iOS/Android devices.
  - Asmod4n 6mo ago
    Afaik the hardware supports it for a while now, but there is no firmware to expose the functionality.
jeroenhd 6mo ago
Google's QuickShare contains a reverse-engineered AWDL implementation that works on Pixel and a few other phones. As for WiFi NAN: support for it seems rather limited outside of iOS and Android. From what I can tell the feature is barely tested on Linux and I can't find any generic Windows APIs for it either.