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"Why netbeans' rails support is so creamingly good"

15 points by r7000 19y ago

twism 19y ago
i posted something on this a couple hours ago... this is the only way anyone should work on RoR
- r7000 19y ago
  Yes, I saw you posted the screencast: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47886 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47886 I'm going to watch that later and then give it a trial run. Did you try it already?
  - twism 19y ago
    yup... setting up debugging is a bitch though
palish 19y ago
Cool. I wish the editor could be modified to act like Vim. I'd switch to it in a heartbeat.
- ks 19y ago
  I think you can use vim as the default editor if you want http://externaleditor.netbeans.org/ http://externaleditor.netbeans.org/
  - palish 19y ago
    Well, I meant full vim integration. The code completion looks wonderful. Vim already provides syntax coloring and RoR itself provides svn integration (append -c to script/generate or script/destroy commands). The only reason I can see to use Netbeans is the great code completion and auto-documentation. (Those are huge reasons, though.) Edit: Hmm.. "We have been working closely with the owner of Vim and he has incorporated our netbeans integration code into a vim 6.1 patch (patch number 366). Currently these sources are not available in a vim release." So I'm confused as to whether it does or it doesn't fully integrate with Vim. I'll have to try it after work..
    - jamesbritt 19y ago
      There is a plugin for vi keyboard commands.
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nanijoe 19y ago
Is Netbeans free?
- michaelneale 19y ago
  Yes. GPL.
kingnothing 19y ago
I've been using the most recent stable dev releases for several months now and love them. http://deadlock.netbeans.org/hudson/job/ruby/ http://deadlock.netbeans.org/hudson/job/ruby/ Also, the devs are incredibly quick to respond to bugs if you run in to a problem.
Alex3917 19y ago
I really don't want to know the etymology of that one.
mhartl 19y ago
NetBeans looks great. Perhaps you can help me with something, though. Every time I try to evaluate one of these spiffy, does-everything-but-brush-your-teeth IDEs I go through the following process: (1) search for half an hour to find exactly the right thing to download; (2) download, install, and run; (3) now what??? In other words, I've found the documentation for fancy features to be rich, but instructions for just getting started are piss poor. Particularly critical is the lack of docs for step 3---how do I start or import a Rails project into the IDE? I've tried Eclipse, Aptana, and NetBeans, and given up in despair each time. I eventually figured it out for RadRails under Linux, but that was only after much effort. (I've since switched to Mac/TextMate.) Any help with the three steps above would be much appreciated. If anyone can post a nice step-by-step guide to getting started, I might even switch to NetBeans!
- twism 19y ago
  Give me a second while i get undrunk
- twism 19y ago
  looks like i have to get back at you tomorrow
- michaelneale 19y ago
  yeah its hard if you are not familiar with the IDE at hand. Its not unlike say, setting up SLIME for CL when you are gasp not an emacs user ;)
  - mhartl 19y ago
    Heh. I did set up SLIME for CL (in XEmacs), after like 8 attempts. I forget how I eventually got it to work, but IIRC I cycled through several CL implementations before cracking it. (SBCL didn't, alas, work with SLIME out of the box.) This brings up some advice for Arc adoption, in case it hasn't yet been addressed: don't assume people will know (or will be willing to learn) Emacs. And don't count on NetBeans support. :-)
    - 19y ago

15 points by r7000 19y ago

twism 19y ago

i posted something on this a couple hours ago... this is the only way anyone should work on RoR

r7000 19y ago
Yes, I saw you posted the screencast: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47886 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47886 I'm going to watch that later and then give it a trial run. Did you try it already?
- twism 19y ago
  yup... setting up debugging is a bitch though

palish 19y ago

Cool. I wish the editor could be modified to act like Vim. I'd switch to it in a heartbeat.

ks 19y ago
I think you can use vim as the default editor if you want http://externaleditor.netbeans.org/ http://externaleditor.netbeans.org/
- palish 19y ago
  Well, I meant full vim integration. The code completion looks wonderful. Vim already provides syntax coloring and RoR itself provides svn integration (append -c to script/generate or script/destroy commands). The only reason I can see to use Netbeans is the great code completion and auto-documentation. (Those are huge reasons, though.) Edit: Hmm.. "We have been working closely with the owner of Vim and he has incorporated our netbeans integration code into a vim 6.1 patch (patch number 366). Currently these sources are not available in a vim release." So I'm confused as to whether it does or it doesn't fully integrate with Vim. I'll have to try it after work..
  - jamesbritt 19y ago
    There is a plugin for vi keyboard commands.

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nanijoe 19y ago

Is Netbeans free?

michaelneale 19y ago
Yes. GPL.

kingnothing 19y ago

I've been using the most recent stable dev releases for several months now and love them. http://deadlock.netbeans.org/hudson/job/ruby/ http://deadlock.netbeans.org/hudson/job/ruby/ Also, the devs are incredibly quick to respond to bugs if you run in to a problem.

Alex3917 19y ago

I really don't want to know the etymology of that one.

mhartl 19y ago

NetBeans looks great. Perhaps you can help me with something, though. Every time I try to evaluate one of these spiffy, does-everything-but-brush-your-teeth IDEs I go through the following process: (1) search for half an hour to find exactly the right thing to download; (2) download, install, and run; (3) now what??? In other words, I've found the documentation for fancy features to be rich, but instructions for just getting started are piss poor. Particularly critical is the lack of docs for step 3---how do I start or import a Rails project into the IDE? I've tried Eclipse, Aptana, and NetBeans, and given up in despair each time. I eventually figured it out for RadRails under Linux, but that was only after much effort. (I've since switched to Mac/TextMate.) Any help with the three steps above would be much appreciated. If anyone can post a nice step-by-step guide to getting started, I might even switch to NetBeans!

twism 19y ago
Give me a second while i get undrunk
twism 19y ago
looks like i have to get back at you tomorrow
michaelneale 19y ago
yeah its hard if you are not familiar with the IDE at hand. Its not unlike say, setting up SLIME for CL when you are gasp not an emacs user ;)
- mhartl 19y ago
  Heh. I did set up SLIME for CL (in XEmacs), after like 8 attempts. I forget how I eventually got it to work, but IIRC I cycled through several CL implementations before cracking it. (SBCL didn't, alas, work with SLIME out of the box.) This brings up some advice for Arc adoption, in case it hasn't yet been addressed: don't assume people will know (or will be willing to learn) Emacs. And don't count on NetBeans support. :-)
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