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The desired outcome is simply not using Glyphosate. I'm not seeing how "reasonability" of this idea impacts it's implementation. If you find someone using it

The desired outcome is simply not using Glyphosate. I'm not seeing how "reasonability" of this idea impacts it's implementation. If you find someone using it you severely fine them and/or put them in jail.

sokoloff 6mo ago
I’m sure someone’s desired outcome is to stop using urea or ammonium nitrate as a fertilizer. “Reasonability of X” factors into many people’s assessment of “should we do X or not-X?”
tptacek 6mo ago
Why is that a desired outcome?
- themafia 6mo ago
  Why is using Glyphosate worth defending? Does it make food taste better, or grow larger, or become more nutruitious? If the only value is to increase the value of crops, by planting patent seeds, and then dousing the land in weed killer, perhaps people, regardless of the published scientific quality of their rationale, think that our food supply would be better off without it. Unless the suggestion that Glyphosate is the only way to grow the necessary amount of food then I think the question should be: What justifies it's use? So then why would you bother to care if the imputed and over generalized public rationale is right or wrong? If it is in fact so worth using then why shouldn't the government use imminent domain to capture the patents and distribute the technology for free?
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  - tptacek 6mo ago
    This question has been answered several times on the thread already: because glyphosate is more benign, and relatively more inert, than other herbicides. The case for it is not complicated.
    - themafia 6mo ago
      > This question has been answered several times on the thread already Yet you continue to respond. So why mention it? > because glyphosate is more benign, and relatively more inert, than other herbicides Except for the fact you have to use genetically modified crop seeds to survive it. Do other herbicides require this? > The case for it is not complicated. The case against it isn't either.
      - tptacek 6mo ago
        You asked a question. I just answered it. And no, the logic you just gave about GM makes no sense. Herbicides long predate GM crops!

sokoloff 6mo ago

I’m sure someone’s desired outcome is to stop using urea or ammonium nitrate as a fertilizer. “Reasonability of X” factors into many people’s assessment of “should we do X or not-X?”

tptacek 6mo ago

Why is that a desired outcome?

themafia 6mo ago
Why is using Glyphosate worth defending? Does it make food taste better, or grow larger, or become more nutruitious? If the only value is to increase the value of crops, by planting patent seeds, and then dousing the land in weed killer, perhaps people, regardless of the published scientific quality of their rationale, think that our food supply would be better off without it. Unless the suggestion that Glyphosate is the only way to grow the necessary amount of food then I think the question should be: What justifies it's use? So then why would you bother to care if the imputed and over generalized public rationale is right or wrong? If it is in fact so worth using then why shouldn't the government use imminent domain to capture the patents and distribute the technology for free?
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- tptacek 6mo ago
  This question has been answered several times on the thread already: because glyphosate is more benign, and relatively more inert, than other herbicides. The case for it is not complicated.
  - themafia 6mo ago
    > This question has been answered several times on the thread already Yet you continue to respond. So why mention it? > because glyphosate is more benign, and relatively more inert, than other herbicides Except for the fact you have to use genetically modified crop seeds to survive it. Do other herbicides require this? > The case for it is not complicated. The case against it isn't either.
    - tptacek 6mo ago
      You asked a question. I just answered it. And no, the logic you just gave about GM makes no sense. Herbicides long predate GM crops!