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laudable goal. I suspect it will end up like most other Canadian procurement projects. also why all the love for Canadian Pacific rail?

nish__ 6mo ago
Why is HN so pessimistic?
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- kirubakaran 6mo ago
  Is setting expectations based on track record considered pessimism?
  - nish__ 6mo ago
    Incessant nit picking, negativity and doubt casting is my issue. And Canada is unrecognizable these days. Why should I think past performance is indicative of future success?
    - slopinthebag 6mo ago
      You're right, it is unrecognisable, and past performance is not indicative of future success. It will be much worse than past performance. Sorry, not optimistic enough I suppose :(
    - dacox 6mo ago
      As a Canadian I see little reason for optimism
    - jsbisviewtiful 6mo ago
      > Incessant nit picking, negativity and doubt casting is my issue. That has unfortunately been very common internet culture since 2020. It was there before the pandemic, but post-pandemic internet never recovered its full whimsy and veered headfirst into a depressive state. Probably says something about everyone's general mood.
- pie_flavor 6mo ago
  The parent comment just says it'll perform similar to how past similarly-shaped things performed, without saying what that past performance is. If that implies pessimism, that's not HN's fault.
  - nish__ 6mo ago
    Give me a break.
  - visceralasonia 6mo ago
    I think they missed "laudable." My first read I thought it said laughable too—it's an easy misread that set a completely different tone for the rest of the comment.
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- visceralasonia 6mo ago
  That says "laudable" not "laughable." They were actually complimenting the effort, even if some folks misread it
- lbrito 6mo ago
  It's the default for any non USA story.
1over137 6mo ago
>also why all the love for Canadian Pacific rail? The Canadian Pacific rail connected the country east to west, was a major milestone in the country's history: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Canadian_Pacific_Railway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Canadian_Pacifi...>
- brailsafe 6mo ago
  While that's true, it does seem to be a strange thing to glamorize now, since as much as it was an engineering accomplishment, it was also arguably a genocidal pursuit, and it's doubtful the sort of projects the government has in mind now will be as "nation building" as expropriating the entirety of Western Canada and letting a single private entity have as much power as CPR does.
  - red-iron-pine 6mo ago
    yeah that ^ was kinda my point. Amazing accomplishment, but now CP is CPKC and is just another giant megacorp that answers to the US FRA or Mexican rail authorities as much as it does the Canadian government. Carney is a bankster and he's not going to be throwing stuff out there to help the common man first.

nish__ 6mo ago

Why is HN so pessimistic?

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kirubakaran 6mo ago
Is setting expectations based on track record considered pessimism?
- nish__ 6mo ago
  Incessant nit picking, negativity and doubt casting is my issue. And Canada is unrecognizable these days. Why should I think past performance is indicative of future success?
  - slopinthebag 6mo ago
    You're right, it is unrecognisable, and past performance is not indicative of future success. It will be much worse than past performance. Sorry, not optimistic enough I suppose :(
  - dacox 6mo ago
    As a Canadian I see little reason for optimism
  - jsbisviewtiful 6mo ago
    > Incessant nit picking, negativity and doubt casting is my issue. That has unfortunately been very common internet culture since 2020. It was there before the pandemic, but post-pandemic internet never recovered its full whimsy and veered headfirst into a depressive state. Probably says something about everyone's general mood.
pie_flavor 6mo ago
The parent comment just says it'll perform similar to how past similarly-shaped things performed, without saying what that past performance is. If that implies pessimism, that's not HN's fault.
- nish__ 6mo ago
  Give me a break.
- visceralasonia 6mo ago
  I think they missed "laudable." My first read I thought it said laughable too—it's an easy misread that set a completely different tone for the rest of the comment.
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visceralasonia 6mo ago
That says "laudable" not "laughable." They were actually complimenting the effort, even if some folks misread it
lbrito 6mo ago
It's the default for any non USA story.

1over137 6mo ago

>also why all the love for Canadian Pacific rail? The Canadian Pacific rail connected the country east to west, was a major milestone in the country's history: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Canadian_Pacific_Railway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Canadian_Pacifi...>

brailsafe 6mo ago
While that's true, it does seem to be a strange thing to glamorize now, since as much as it was an engineering accomplishment, it was also arguably a genocidal pursuit, and it's doubtful the sort of projects the government has in mind now will be as "nation building" as expropriating the entirety of Western Canada and letting a single private entity have as much power as CPR does.
- red-iron-pine 6mo ago
  yeah that ^ was kinda my point. Amazing accomplishment, but now CP is CPKC and is just another giant megacorp that answers to the US FRA or Mexican rail authorities as much as it does the Canadian government. Carney is a bankster and he's not going to be throwing stuff out there to help the common man first.