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This was actually really helpful. I feel like it should be done for all PR speak.

JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
It's better than the original, but still off. "The Microsoft and OpenAI situation just got messy" is objectively wrong–it has been messy for months [1]. Nos. 1 through 3 are fine, though "if they can't keep up with the tech, OpenAI is moving out" parrots OpenAI's party line. No. 4 doesn't make sense–it starts out with "we" referring to OpenAI in the first person but ends by referring to them in the third person "they." No. 5 is reductive when phrased with "just." It would seem the translator took corporate PR speak and translated it into something between the LinkedIn and short-form blogger dialects. [1] https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-and-microsoft-tensions-are-reaching-a-boiling-point-4981c44f?mod=article_inline https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-and-microsoft-tensions-ar...
- Maxatar 6mo ago
  Being objectively correct isn't the goal of the translator, the translator can't possibly know if a statement is truthful. What the translator does is well... translate, specifically from some kind of corporate speak that is really difficult for many people including myself to understand, into something more familiar. I don't expect the translation to take OpenAI's statements and make them truthful or to investigate their veracity, but I genuinely could not understand OpenAI's press release as they have worded it. The translation at least makes it easier to understand what OpenAI's view of the situation is.
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    - airstrike 6mo ago
      Presumably the paid version would be even better! But this free translation is already remarkable
  - ghostly_s 6mo ago
    > The only only pure fuck-up I'd call out is switching from third to first person when referring to OpenAI in the same sentence (No. 4). "We" in this sentence refers to both parties; "they" refers to OpenAI. Not a grammatical error.
    - JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
      > "We" in this sentence refers to both parties Fair enough. > "they" refers to OpenAI. Not a grammatical error I'd say it is. It's a press release from OpenAI. The rest of the release uses the third-person "they" to refer to Microsoft. The LLM traded accuracy for a bad joke, which is someting I associate with LinkedIn speak. The fundmaental problem might be the OpenAI press release is vague. (And changing. It's changed at least once since I first commented.)
    - auscompgeek 6mo ago
      In isolation sure. But in context with the other points it makes it look like "they" refers to Microsoft in all the dot points.
- matthewkayin 6mo ago
  > "The Microsoft and OpenAI situation just got messy" is objectively wrong–it has been messy for months I'm pretty sure "just" is being used here to mean "simply" rather than "recently".

It's better than the original, but still off. "The Microsoft and OpenAI situation just got messy" is objectively wrong–it has been messy for months [1]. Nos. 1 through 3 are fine, though "if they can't keep up with the tech, OpenAI is moving out" parrots OpenAI's party line. No. 4 doesn't make sense–it starts out with "we" referring to OpenAI in the first person but ends by referring to them in the third person "they." No. 5 is reductive when phrased with "just." It would seem the translator took corporate PR speak and translated it into something between the LinkedIn and short-form blogger dialects. [1] https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-and-microsoft-tensions-are-reaching-a-boiling-point-4981c44f?mod=article_inline https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-and-microsoft-tensions-ar...

Maxatar 6mo ago
Being objectively correct isn't the goal of the translator, the translator can't possibly know if a statement is truthful. What the translator does is well... translate, specifically from some kind of corporate speak that is really difficult for many people including myself to understand, into something more familiar. I don't expect the translation to take OpenAI's statements and make them truthful or to investigate their veracity, but I genuinely could not understand OpenAI's press release as they have worded it. The translation at least makes it easier to understand what OpenAI's view of the situation is.
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  - airstrike 6mo ago
    Presumably the paid version would be even better! But this free translation is already remarkable
- ghostly_s 6mo ago
  > The only only pure fuck-up I'd call out is switching from third to first person when referring to OpenAI in the same sentence (No. 4). "We" in this sentence refers to both parties; "they" refers to OpenAI. Not a grammatical error.
  - JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
    > "We" in this sentence refers to both parties Fair enough. > "they" refers to OpenAI. Not a grammatical error I'd say it is. It's a press release from OpenAI. The rest of the release uses the third-person "they" to refer to Microsoft. The LLM traded accuracy for a bad joke, which is someting I associate with LinkedIn speak. The fundmaental problem might be the OpenAI press release is vague. (And changing. It's changed at least once since I first commented.)
  - auscompgeek 6mo ago
    In isolation sure. But in context with the other points it makes it look like "they" refers to Microsoft in all the dot points.
matthewkayin 6mo ago
> "The Microsoft and OpenAI situation just got messy" is objectively wrong–it has been messy for months I'm pretty sure "just" is being used here to mean "simply" rather than "recently".