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Because companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law, as opposed to the U.S where breaking the law is just a matter of paying some $ to the grifter in
by askonomm 5mo ago
Because companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law, as opposed to the U.S where breaking the law is just a matter of paying some $ to the grifter in chief? I always find it funny when Europeans being proactive about that sort of stuff is somehow a bad thing from Americans point of view. Like wanting decent human rights and not having to bend over to megacorps is something we should not have.
Though, if the Americans in question just want to do their grifting in EU, it makes sense why they are upset at that, I guess, because it limits their grifting opportunities.
- joe_mamba 5mo ago>Because companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law Haha, yeah sure. What other fairy tales you gonna tells us next? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens#2005_and_continuing:_worldwide_bribery_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens#2005_and_continuing:_w... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmalat_bankruptcy_timeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmalat_bankruptcy_timeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus#Bribery_allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus#Bribery_allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CumEx-Files https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CumEx-Files https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafarge_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafarge_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizergate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizergate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ING_Group#Money_laundering_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ING_Group#Money_laundering_cas... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Holdings#Corruption_allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Holdings#Corruptio...
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- watwut 5mo agoYes, European companies break the law too. However, the comment this was about literally mocked the companies that are actively trying to follow the law. So yes, such companies exist and plenty of people see their existence as a good thing rather then something to mock.
- jgwil2 5mo agoThat comment mocked German customers; it didn't mention companies at all.
- mothballed 5mo agoLaw has no virtue in and of itself.
- 21asdffdsa12 5mo agoIt also ultimately a expression of might makes right (sad as this is) and as the current culture supports a decline of western might, it also undoes the law - first international, than domestic. We simply decided to burden our might with these restriction fictions, others feel not at all compelled to follow. I expect to see further selling out of these laws, as the economic prosperity declines. I can perfectly see german law limiting german companies from developing and selling AI products, while at the same time allowing us companies for a "pay our retires and pension-plans" kickback.
- esafak 5mo agoIn Europe, those are scandals. In the US, it's another Tuesday.
- joe_mamba 5mo agoIf we keep moving the goalposts you can make any argument
- Arodex 5mo agoWhat goalposts? Your sitting president, himself a conman is pardoning fraudsters left and right while he and his family enrich themselves with public money and extortion.
- Ylpertnodi 5mo agoShhhh, don't tell them, it'll be funnier at the end.
- joe_mamba 5mo agoWhat's "the end"?
- joe_mamba 5mo ago> Your sitting president, himself a conman Joke's on you, I'm European not American, so "your president" in this case would be the unelected Ursula and she would technically be a con-woman, not a con-man. Not sure what your argument was supposed to prove with this cheap jab though.
- Arodex 5mo agoUrsula Van der Leyen was elected. Trump too. If you argue she wasn't elected by the European population, well, Trump technically isn't too.
- pyrale 5mo agoLet me rephrase this: companies want to avoid breaking the law unknowingly, because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly. Plenty of corporations are willing to break the rules, but never for free.
- guywithahat 5mo ago> because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly This is a weird hill to die on because it's not true. I can't find anything to support your world view and if anything evidence points to the contrary. Europe has a deliberately more complex legal framework, usually in the hopes of keeping out foreign competition (although it's dubious whether or not that actually works).
- pyrale 5mo ago> I can't find anything to support your world view Just look at US laws pertaining to data that goes through US companies.
- Arodex 5mo agoThank you for your brilliant demonstration of survivorship bias. How many people were punished for Enron? For the subprime crisis? Etc. In the US, you just give a little money for the president's ballroom and you are pardoned. Or you settle out of court because your justice system is crap.
- selectodude 5mo agoThe CEO of Enron was convicted and died two months before sentencing and the COO got 12 years. Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.
- joe_mamba 5mo ago>Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison. But, but ..Europeans here said they don't tolerate crooks.
- Arodex 5mo agoThe parent poster is implying things that aren't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Fastow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Fastow
- lo_zamoyski 5mo ago> companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law This is hilarious. This reminds me of Soviet propaganda. "No, there was no Chernobyl disaster. Please disregard the corpses. Yes, the centrally-planned economy is doing fantastically, better than expected. Reports of famines and shortages are imperialist propaganda." (Mind you, the Soviets are not alone here, but the blatant chutzpah of Soviet propaganda is perhaps more conspicuous to the Western eye than the Western varieties of PR and psychological manipulation.)
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- Ylpertnodi 5mo agoParis was a shithole 40 years ago, too. It's only free speech if the .gov says so.p Rapists get set free in all countries all the time.