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> Overall, as with every digital ID thread, it would help if some of the fearmon gering commentators would read the actually EUDI specs for once in their lives
by raverbashing 6mo ago
> Overall, as with every digital ID thread, it would help if some of the fearmon gering commentators would read the actually EUDI specs for once in their lives
Yeah
I'm getting really really tired of the "crying wolf" crowd
- thomasingalls 6mo agoJust because the government is not out to get you at this exact moment doesn't mean that a future government won't be. Surveillance capacity seems to be a one way ratchet.
- bootsmann 6mo agoWhat surveillance capacity? In what way does the spec build surveillance capacity?
- greenavocado 6mo agoMandatory app installation through the mandatory state sanctioned rootkit Google Play store and 4G/5G LTE modems on-chip management engines. And that doesn't even cover the ubiquitous app data partnerships which report your information upstream.
- dzhiurgis 6mo ago97% of population is ok with this
- thomasingalls 6mo agoNot having a choice is not the same as consent
- dzhiurgis 6mo agoBut you do have a choice. No one is takin away your physical IDs. But vast majority of population is begging for a safe digital ID solution. Cash is still mostly accepted while majority of transactions are digital.
- greenavocado 6mo ago> vast majority of population is begging for a safe digital ID solution Absolutely not. The population is fine with the status quo.
- dzhiurgis 6mo agoHuh? Maybe in Europe, yes where digital ID has been around for _decades_. In US tho? You can get SSN of literally everyone and that's somehow enough to ID yourself.
- jeroenhd 6mo agoTo be fair to some of them, across the Atlantic the Americans are implementing similar laws in absolutely ridiculous ways. Many Americans don't even have ID (and plenty of those are reluctant to the general concept of any kind of government ID), let alone any kind of digital ID. However, their governments are pushing frankly weird and absurd ID verification laws to businesses online. Meta seems to be bankrolling lobbying around these laws, so whatever their game is, it's probably very bad for normal people. If you're coming from a place where the government tells companies they need to set up a system or hire private companies to verify users' ages without providing any kind of official mechanism themselves, leading to ridiculous hacks from cheap and incompetent "age verification" companies, I can understand why the European system seems absurd. If the US is going to adopt their weird age verification laws, the least they could do is fork the European system already laid out for them. Put a little American flag on it, call it "America First Christian Age Truthness" or whatever the people in charge like, but at least keep the basic privacy properties intact.
- petre 6mo agoRelax, it would probably buit by Palantir and operated by Meta /s.
- aquariusDue 6mo agoI thought that's what the blue checkmark on X was for already /s
- dzhiurgis 6mo agoYou joke, but at least it would work well, be secure and cost appropriate. All at a cost of imaginary privacy that you don’t have already.
- SoftTalker 6mo ago> Many Americans don't even have ID I don't believe this. "Many" perhaps in raw out-of-context numbers but as a percentage of the population, very few functioning, self-supporting and employed adults in America do not have an ID. It's simply not possible to participate in society without one. You need an ID to register a car, to drive, to vote, to bank, to get a job, to buy a house, to rent an apartment, to get water, power, gas, internet.... If you don't have an ID, you are either a child, or you are deliberately trying to exist off the record. I.e. you are here illegally or you have chosen some very fringe antisocial survivalist offgrid way of living.