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I think even digital IDs will tend to exist as physical tokens? Also worth noting that you can have a digitized and cryptographically signed ID on "paper" which
by fc417fc802 6mo ago
I think even digital IDs will tend to exist as physical tokens? Also worth noting that you can have a digitized and cryptographically signed ID on "paper" which can serve much the same purpose (security, machine readability) as an electronic one. Where electronic tokens shine (for IDs or otherwise) is attesting to the physical possession of a single copy.
- izacus 6mo agoMany EU countries already issue a chipcard IDs which can be used to auth for government services (via NFC or a dedicated reader). So yeah, I'd expect those to move to a phone as an alternative to the card
- shevy-java 6mo agoThis is not the same. For instance, we can access the internet without needing that ID. But right now there are attempts to force a digital ID in order to access information on the www - this is the whole idea behind "age verification". The kids are just used as excuse here. It has never been about the kids.
- izacus 6mo agoI think you're jumping to conclusions that aren't supported by the digital ID proposal. Even with that: There's plenty of services dangerous to kids that we gate behind an ID check and I don't particularly see why internet is special in any way.
- fc417fc802 6mo agoYou think bad actors are going to plainly spell out their nefarious intentions? Or worse, the misinformed reactionaries that genuinely believe they're doing good. No one claimed the internet should receive special treatment. The two forms of ID check that you're attempting to equate aren't the same.
- Muromec 6mo agoMost passports in post 9/11 world have a chip. Thanks America!
- grey-area 6mo agoI don’t see why they would bother with physical tokens nor would they be popular - things like passports are really quite expensive to manage and largely unecessary these days. An app or identity on people’s phone might be a good stopgap. However I suspect biometric methods of id verification will render carrying anything redundant long term. The databases for digital id already exist, they’re just not fully utilised yet and these databases will always be centralised.
- lodovic 6mo agoI doubt everyone will still be carrying phones as we know them in a decade, so we might indeed be headed for a future where governments keep giant databases of biometric information. Works OK if you trust your government to handle that properly and not abuse it in the future. The real headache is crossing borders, where your details end up in the hands of a foreign state.
- ACCount37 6mo agoWhat? What to replace the phones with? And why whatever replaces them wouldn't be able to do the same things?
- consp 6mo ago> so we might indeed be headed for a future where governments keep giant databases of biometric information Don't want to wake you from that nice dream but that ship has sailed quite a while back, at least here in the EU.
- grey-area 6mo agoWe are already in that future and have been for at least a decade. Passports contain biometrics which are in a central db too.
- LunaSea 6mo agoBiometrics are usernames at best not passwords.
- b112 6mo ago