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Dont really care. Not in the UK but in Sweden. Smoking is already banned in restaurants, on train platforms, mostly all in public. With health care being tax

Dont really care. Not in the UK but in Sweden. Smoking is already banned in restaurants, on train platforms, mostly all in public. With health care being tax funded in regions, I dont want to pay for smokers bad health. "oh but do you want to tax or prohibit unhealthy foods!!??" Yes, first remove all drinks with sugar or heavily tax them. Not needed. Zero sugar drinks only. 2nd - price hike on snacks, chips, nuts, chocolate, "pick n mix" candy, sugar candy 3rd - BMI based health. Want any help for pain, surgery, whatever and your BMI is over 25? Lower it and you get it. Do you smoke? Stop. Do nicotine? Stop. Any hard drugs? Stop.

mrbukkake 6mo ago
yes very swedish response, aggressively conformist and narrow minded
- cindyllm 6mo ago
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- Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
  I assume you are american, must be very blackpilling to visit Sweden. Imagine living in a functional democracy and society where things work like public transport and holidays. https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27 https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27
  - troad 6mo ago
    Not OP, but I'm not American, have been to Sweden (and lived most of my life in countries with better public healthcare than Sweden), and I also think yours is an aggressively conformist take. I'm not sure what value it is meant to be adding to the overall conversation. Save it for Reddit next time.
    - busterarm 6mo ago
      Despite being supposedly secular societies, their protestant tendencies are quite strong. Many find it stifling. American but speak Danish and almost moved there a couple of times.
    - Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
      I'm permabanned on Reddit unfortunately so I cannot participate in that site :( I make a new account and it is immediately shadowbanned + real banned for evading in 24h. Even with a VPN. They are crafty. Anyway Reddit is leftie infested too, so they don't like me ether but I liked some specific hobby and work subreddits. As below said we have that hardcore protestant work ethic, not suitable for everyone. Only Germans do it better. My point is we have a functional society, healthcare, public transport, schooling and world leading companies, one of the highest HDI in the world etc. We are just the best :)
      - troad 6mo ago
        So you're a religiously-tinged nationalist. I'm happy that you're happy, but is that really meant to be particularly unique or interesting? Or even germane to the topic at hand?
        Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
        mrbukkake said it was a very Swedish response and from there it went, the germane topic at hand, and I'm like, yea? We banned smoking in public in 2005 and have had a special government alcohol store since 1955. Nationalist is a bad word nowadays but then people cannot deny where people want to live is in the north or western Europe or USA/Canada. Maybe Japan and SK also.
        troad 6mo ago
        I live in none of those places. I enjoy a (free) public healthcare system consistently ranked much higher than Sweden's, and smoking has been banned virtually everywhere except for designated areas for several decades. (There is much more public smoking in Europe than here.) Our HDI is equivalent to Sweden's, our household wealth and incomes are significantly higher; lower crime, more nature, much better weather. There are over two millions European migrants living here. Many are economic migrants - nurses and doctors, for example, since our public healthcare system pays better, and offers better work-life balance, than those in Europe. The thing is, I still don't see how any of that matters. This is a pointless nationalist dick measuring contest that leads nowhere. You're not going to convince anyone of the superiority of Sweden, nor are you likely to be convinced of the superiority of other places, so what is the point of the discussion?
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  - mrbukkake 6mo ago
    I'm a New Zealander and I live in Germany. What other pearls of Swedish wisdom do you have for us?
subjectsigma 6mo ago
> With health care being tax funded in regions, I dont want to pay for smokers bad health. > 2nd - price hike on snacks, chips, nuts, chocolate, "pick n mix" candy, sugar candy I love being proven right. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47848115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47848115
- Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
  Its not happening but it is my whishlist. Sweden does not have a sugar tax but Norway does, they go over the border to buy candy. The big limit here is alcohol, over 3.5% is only able to be sold in special regulated stores https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systembolaget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systembolaget I assume you are american, must be very blackpilling to visit Sweden. Imagine living in a functional democracy and society where things work like public transport and holidays. https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27 https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27
  - subjectsigma 6mo ago
    I am American, I have never visited Sweden but I have visited Norway. The taxes on normal everyday things like food were as high as 25% and everyone I talked to expressed interest in America, either visiting or living there. I only know one person who moved from America to a Nordic country (Denmark) and she complained that everyone was racist and that it took several months to get an appointment for a root canal, during that time she just had to live with severe pain. I have zero desire to live in any Nordic country.
  - ls612 6mo ago
    I am American and I visited Stockholm for a week last year. It was nice and pretty but boy oh boy was it stifling. Copenhagen was way more relaxed by comparison.
    - Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
      Scandinavia overall then, substitute that for Sweden in general :)
ianschmitz 6mo ago
What did nuts ever do to you?
- Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
  Nuts have good fats and are somewhat okay in a VERY moderate amount. But they have a crazy amount of calories. Nuts are not a thing to snack on, if you eat more than one handful, but it is easy to eat an entire bag and at that point just eat chips. "A small 1.5-ounce serving often contains 240–300 calories, while larger bags (e.g., 100g) can range from 570 to 750 calories."
  - DANmode 5mo ago
    > at that point just eat chips. Calories are not created equal. The seed oils in chips are a blinding differentiator alone. Other contaminants often make chips a much worse choice. Unless, this being an international forum, you meant “hand cut potato”, not potato crisps - those are a little harder to compare.
    - Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
      In terms of weight, yes it is calories in calories out. Anything else is fat cope. And I mean potato chips as in crisps. I mean like Lays.
      - DANmode 5mo ago
        > Anything else is fat cope. What if I look like Michael Phelps? > In terms of weight Haven’t you ever wondered what the swelling is above the eyes, and in the head in general, of the people on shows like “My 600 Lbs Life”? I’ll give a hint: it’s not fat. The head doesn’t really store fat like that. It has to be something else. The “something else” is my concern, here.

mrbukkake 6mo ago

yes very swedish response, aggressively conformist and narrow minded

cindyllm 6mo ago
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Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
I assume you are american, must be very blackpilling to visit Sweden. Imagine living in a functional democracy and society where things work like public transport and holidays. https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27 https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27
- troad 6mo ago
  Not OP, but I'm not American, have been to Sweden (and lived most of my life in countries with better public healthcare than Sweden), and I also think yours is an aggressively conformist take. I'm not sure what value it is meant to be adding to the overall conversation. Save it for Reddit next time.
  - busterarm 6mo ago
    Despite being supposedly secular societies, their protestant tendencies are quite strong. Many find it stifling. American but speak Danish and almost moved there a couple of times.
  - Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
    I'm permabanned on Reddit unfortunately so I cannot participate in that site :( I make a new account and it is immediately shadowbanned + real banned for evading in 24h. Even with a VPN. They are crafty. Anyway Reddit is leftie infested too, so they don't like me ether but I liked some specific hobby and work subreddits. As below said we have that hardcore protestant work ethic, not suitable for everyone. Only Germans do it better. My point is we have a functional society, healthcare, public transport, schooling and world leading companies, one of the highest HDI in the world etc. We are just the best :)
    - troad 6mo ago
      So you're a religiously-tinged nationalist. I'm happy that you're happy, but is that really meant to be particularly unique or interesting? Or even germane to the topic at hand?
      - Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
        mrbukkake said it was a very Swedish response and from there it went, the germane topic at hand, and I'm like, yea? We banned smoking in public in 2005 and have had a special government alcohol store since 1955. Nationalist is a bad word nowadays but then people cannot deny where people want to live is in the north or western Europe or USA/Canada. Maybe Japan and SK also.
        troad 6mo ago
        I live in none of those places. I enjoy a (free) public healthcare system consistently ranked much higher than Sweden's, and smoking has been banned virtually everywhere except for designated areas for several decades. (There is much more public smoking in Europe than here.) Our HDI is equivalent to Sweden's, our household wealth and incomes are significantly higher; lower crime, more nature, much better weather. There are over two millions European migrants living here. Many are economic migrants - nurses and doctors, for example, since our public healthcare system pays better, and offers better work-life balance, than those in Europe. The thing is, I still don't see how any of that matters. This is a pointless nationalist dick measuring contest that leads nowhere. You're not going to convince anyone of the superiority of Sweden, nor are you likely to be convinced of the superiority of other places, so what is the point of the discussion?
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- mrbukkake 6mo ago
  I'm a New Zealander and I live in Germany. What other pearls of Swedish wisdom do you have for us?

subjectsigma 6mo ago

> With health care being tax funded in regions, I dont want to pay for smokers bad health. > 2nd - price hike on snacks, chips, nuts, chocolate, "pick n mix" candy, sugar candy I love being proven right. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47848115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47848115

Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
Its not happening but it is my whishlist. Sweden does not have a sugar tax but Norway does, they go over the border to buy candy. The big limit here is alcohol, over 3.5% is only able to be sold in special regulated stores https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systembolaget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systembolaget I assume you are american, must be very blackpilling to visit Sweden. Imagine living in a functional democracy and society where things work like public transport and holidays. https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27 https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27
- subjectsigma 6mo ago
  I am American, I have never visited Sweden but I have visited Norway. The taxes on normal everyday things like food were as high as 25% and everyone I talked to expressed interest in America, either visiting or living there. I only know one person who moved from America to a Nordic country (Denmark) and she complained that everyone was racist and that it took several months to get an appointment for a root canal, during that time she just had to live with severe pain. I have zero desire to live in any Nordic country.
- ls612 6mo ago
  I am American and I visited Stockholm for a week last year. It was nice and pretty but boy oh boy was it stifling. Copenhagen was way more relaxed by comparison.
  - Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
    Scandinavia overall then, substitute that for Sweden in general :)

ianschmitz 6mo ago

What did nuts ever do to you?

Scroll_Swe 6mo ago
Nuts have good fats and are somewhat okay in a VERY moderate amount. But they have a crazy amount of calories. Nuts are not a thing to snack on, if you eat more than one handful, but it is easy to eat an entire bag and at that point just eat chips. "A small 1.5-ounce serving often contains 240–300 calories, while larger bags (e.g., 100g) can range from 570 to 750 calories."
- DANmode 5mo ago
  > at that point just eat chips. Calories are not created equal. The seed oils in chips are a blinding differentiator alone. Other contaminants often make chips a much worse choice. Unless, this being an international forum, you meant “hand cut potato”, not potato crisps - those are a little harder to compare.
  - Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
    In terms of weight, yes it is calories in calories out. Anything else is fat cope. And I mean potato chips as in crisps. I mean like Lays.
    - DANmode 5mo ago
      > Anything else is fat cope. What if I look like Michael Phelps? > In terms of weight Haven’t you ever wondered what the swelling is above the eyes, and in the head in general, of the people on shows like “My 600 Lbs Life”? I’ll give a hint: it’s not fat. The head doesn’t really store fat like that. It has to be something else. The “something else” is my concern, here.