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That was in the article. This shouldn't have to be disabled, this should have to be enabled. If you are going to enable it by default, how is it ok to show hist

by jetti 14y ago

That was in the article. This shouldn't have to be disabled, this should have to be enabled. If you are going to enable it by default, how is it ok to show history? There is no possible way you couldn't opted out to a feature that didn't exist when something was liked 3 years ago.

saurik 14y ago
I guess, yes: if you aren't going to use Facebook for three years, maybe you should disable your account before you leave. However, this is still somewhat sensationalistic: the concept of these social ads was very clearly laid out as one of the launch features of Pages back in 2007. https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 """Ads will be getting more relevant and more interesting to you. Instead of random messages from advertisers, we've launched Social Ads. Social Ads provide advertisements alongside related actions your friends have taken on the site. These actions may be things like "Leah is now a fan of The Offspring" (if I added The Offspring to my music) or "Justin wrote a review for Sushi Hut" (If Justin wrote this review on the Sushi Hut page). These actions could then be paired with an ad that either The Offspring or Sushi Hut provides.""" As for this specific feature to turn off these kinds of advertisements, that has existed since just about three years ago: January of 2010 is when they launched the new expanded Facebook privacy settings feature, and this is one of the settings people were talking about. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your-privacy-with-facebook%E2%80%99s-new-privacy-settings-in-17-easy-steps/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your... The scope of when and where they appear has changed somewhat over time, especially in early 2011 with the new "sponsored stories" feature, but the idea of how this feature will work and what it means has been there for much longer than that. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-feed-ads/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-f... Then, in 2012, they added these stories to the news feed (where they were in this article). Again: the places where these ads are shown has changed somewhat over time, but this is the exact same feature and privacy implication as all the earlier variants. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introduce-sponsored-stories-to-news-feed-in-2012/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introdu... I'm thereby somewhat at a loss as to what the real issue is here, or why this is suddenly "news" to anyone: nothing has really changed in how Facebook treats these ads in many years; I'd even go so far as to say in this specific case, they haven't done it ever, but they certainly haven't done it in the last 5 years (since 2007). Regardless, you certainly have had many years now to understand and deactivate this feature: if someone, such as the author of this original post (not you, as maybe you haven't used Facebook since 2009), really care about your privacy, and somehow at the end of 2012 you haven't noticed a giant feature linked both from "Settings" and from "Privacy" on a website that is holding tons of personal information about you, I question whether you (again, OP) really care about your privacy ;P.
- moultano 14y ago
  >I guess, yes: if you aren't going to use Facebook for three years, maybe you should disable your account before you leave. That is an absurd standard. When people stop using a service, they just stop using it. That doesn't mean you get to pimp them out just because they aren't around to turn your shit off.
  - saurik 14y ago
    After that statement, I spent a ton of words with examples and detailed articles showing that the guy was actually wrong about the very premise that this behavior changed: it didn't, and even that privacy feature was there just one month shy of three years ago. I felt that lead was required, however, as the guy was making statements that things might have changed while he left, and if he really cares about that, I'm sorry, but you really can't trust anyone not to change things while you are gone: if you are going to leave your house unattended for three years, I don't care if it is illegal to break into it, you are downright stupid to not figure some way to get it watched, and maybe you should just sell it or at least rent it out to others in the interim.
    - nathan_long 14y ago
      >> if you are going to leave your house unattended for three years... you are downright stupid to not figure some way to get it watched That is completely different. Number one, a common and legitimate reason to stop using Facebook is apathy. How many sites or services have you abandoned using over the years? Imagine if each one of them took your inactivity as permission to actively impersonate you. Number two, this isn't like your abandoned house getting broken into by random people. This is like your landlord changing your rent agreement unilaterally to say that she can steal your furniture. The real difference is that I assume my landlord is basically honest, whereas I long ago dropped that assumption about Facebook. If I heard that Facebook were taking over web cameras and selling indecent images of their users, I would not be surprised. I see the basic policy of Facebook as "we are going to do anything we want with your account and/or data unless you vigilantly monitor and stop us." Which is why I deleted my account. I assume they actually kept it and are still selling my data, because that's just the kind of company they are.
pdenya 14y ago
Is this definitely enabled for everyone by default? Mine was already set to "No One" and i'm fairly certain i've never seen that page before.
- jetti 14y ago
  When did you create your facebook account?
- mietek 14y ago
  This was enabled for me by default, and I'm certain I've never seen that page before. I created my FB page in 2008.
- Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
  I'm the same. But while I've never seen that page before historically I've been pretty strict about going in and tightening up privacy settings. I wonder if when they introduced this they created a default based on other privacy settings?

by jetti 14y ago

saurik 14y ago

I guess, yes: if you aren't going to use Facebook for three years, maybe you should disable your account before you leave. However, this is still somewhat sensationalistic: the concept of these social ads was very clearly laid out as one of the launch features of Pages back in 2007. https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 """Ads will be getting more relevant and more interesting to you. Instead of random messages from advertisers, we've launched Social Ads. Social Ads provide advertisements alongside related actions your friends have taken on the site. These actions may be things like "Leah is now a fan of The Offspring" (if I added The Offspring to my music) or "Justin wrote a review for Sushi Hut" (If Justin wrote this review on the Sushi Hut page). These actions could then be paired with an ad that either The Offspring or Sushi Hut provides.""" As for this specific feature to turn off these kinds of advertisements, that has existed since just about three years ago: January of 2010 is when they launched the new expanded Facebook privacy settings feature, and this is one of the settings people were talking about. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your-privacy-with-facebook%E2%80%99s-new-privacy-settings-in-17-easy-steps/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your... The scope of when and where they appear has changed somewhat over time, especially in early 2011 with the new "sponsored stories" feature, but the idea of how this feature will work and what it means has been there for much longer than that. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-feed-ads/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-f... Then, in 2012, they added these stories to the news feed (where they were in this article). Again: the places where these ads are shown has changed somewhat over time, but this is the exact same feature and privacy implication as all the earlier variants. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introduce-sponsored-stories-to-news-feed-in-2012/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introdu... I'm thereby somewhat at a loss as to what the real issue is here, or why this is suddenly "news" to anyone: nothing has really changed in how Facebook treats these ads in many years; I'd even go so far as to say in this specific case, they haven't done it ever, but they certainly haven't done it in the last 5 years (since 2007). Regardless, you certainly have had many years now to understand and deactivate this feature: if someone, such as the author of this original post (not you, as maybe you haven't used Facebook since 2009), really care about your privacy, and somehow at the end of 2012 you haven't noticed a giant feature linked both from "Settings" and from "Privacy" on a website that is holding tons of personal information about you, I question whether you (again, OP) really care about your privacy ;P.

moultano 14y ago
>I guess, yes: if you aren't going to use Facebook for three years, maybe you should disable your account before you leave. That is an absurd standard. When people stop using a service, they just stop using it. That doesn't mean you get to pimp them out just because they aren't around to turn your shit off.
- saurik 14y ago
  After that statement, I spent a ton of words with examples and detailed articles showing that the guy was actually wrong about the very premise that this behavior changed: it didn't, and even that privacy feature was there just one month shy of three years ago. I felt that lead was required, however, as the guy was making statements that things might have changed while he left, and if he really cares about that, I'm sorry, but you really can't trust anyone not to change things while you are gone: if you are going to leave your house unattended for three years, I don't care if it is illegal to break into it, you are downright stupid to not figure some way to get it watched, and maybe you should just sell it or at least rent it out to others in the interim.
  - nathan_long 14y ago
    >> if you are going to leave your house unattended for three years... you are downright stupid to not figure some way to get it watched That is completely different. Number one, a common and legitimate reason to stop using Facebook is apathy. How many sites or services have you abandoned using over the years? Imagine if each one of them took your inactivity as permission to actively impersonate you. Number two, this isn't like your abandoned house getting broken into by random people. This is like your landlord changing your rent agreement unilaterally to say that she can steal your furniture. The real difference is that I assume my landlord is basically honest, whereas I long ago dropped that assumption about Facebook. If I heard that Facebook were taking over web cameras and selling indecent images of their users, I would not be surprised. I see the basic policy of Facebook as "we are going to do anything we want with your account and/or data unless you vigilantly monitor and stop us." Which is why I deleted my account. I assume they actually kept it and are still selling my data, because that's just the kind of company they are.

pdenya 14y ago

Is this definitely enabled for everyone by default? Mine was already set to "No One" and i'm fairly certain i've never seen that page before.

jetti 14y ago
When did you create your facebook account?
mietek 14y ago
This was enabled for me by default, and I'm certain I've never seen that page before. I created my FB page in 2008.
Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
I'm the same. But while I've never seen that page before historically I've been pretty strict about going in and tightening up privacy settings. I wonder if when they introduced this they created a default based on other privacy settings?