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I'm not overly familiar with the Greek Golden Dawn, other than what I've read on Wikipedia or bits in the news. I realize they are a neo-nazi organization, and

by runjake 14y ago

I'm not overly familiar with the Greek Golden Dawn, other than what I've read on Wikipedia or bits in the news. I realize they are a neo-nazi organization, and even seem to embrace Nazism, but what is their significance currently? Are they seeing widespread support? Is their support growing at startling levels or what? What is their significance that led to this interesting posting?

charonn0 14y ago
Until very recently they were a fringe party with microscopic public support. The ongoing Greek financial debacle and resulting terrible economic impact and sometimes violent civil unrest has given them enough of a boost to actually win seats in the Greek Parliament. It's not so much that Neo-Nazi's in Greece exist, but that the Greek people are starting to take them seriously and listen to what they have to say. It might be akin to members of the KKK being elected to the US Congress.
- charonn0 14y ago
  From Wikipedia: "In May 2009, Golden Dawn took part in the European elections, receiving 23,564 votes corresponding to 0.46 percent of the total votes ... In the Greek parliamentary elections of May 2012, the party received 6.97% of the popular vote. In the rerun of the elections in June 2012, their share of the vote was 6.92%. A survey in September 2012 showed that 22% of respondents expressed "positive opinions" about Golden Dawn, up from 12% in May."
- mostlyquiet 14y ago
  We did have KKK members in congress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Byrd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Byrd and somehow we managed to survive.
  - charonn0 14y ago
    Survive, yes. But then even Sen. Byrd later said, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened." He also stated that he was no longer a member when he ran for Congress. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06...
Dracosphinx 14y ago
The Golden Dawn party has had 18 officials elected to office. They have also been linked to racial and hate crimes since 2002. They used to be a relatively fringe group, but since Greece's bankruptcy, they have been gaining very strong support very fast.
- runjake 14y ago
  Thank you, this is very concise and useful. If I sounded like I discounted your claims, please don't take it that way. I only wished to learned more about this situation, which I know little about, but could have major implications across Europe and by proxy, the US.
  - Dracosphinx 14y ago
    I just wish more people were aware of the disturbing similarities to Wiemar Germany... Here's the leader of GD denying the holocaust and defending Hitler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXy7f17GXtQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXy7f17GXtQ

by runjake 14y ago

charonn0 14y ago

Until very recently they were a fringe party with microscopic public support. The ongoing Greek financial debacle and resulting terrible economic impact and sometimes violent civil unrest has given them enough of a boost to actually win seats in the Greek Parliament. It's not so much that Neo-Nazi's in Greece exist, but that the Greek people are starting to take them seriously and listen to what they have to say. It might be akin to members of the KKK being elected to the US Congress.

charonn0 14y ago
From Wikipedia: "In May 2009, Golden Dawn took part in the European elections, receiving 23,564 votes corresponding to 0.46 percent of the total votes ... In the Greek parliamentary elections of May 2012, the party received 6.97% of the popular vote. In the rerun of the elections in June 2012, their share of the vote was 6.92%. A survey in September 2012 showed that 22% of respondents expressed "positive opinions" about Golden Dawn, up from 12% in May."
mostlyquiet 14y ago
We did have KKK members in congress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Byrd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Byrd and somehow we managed to survive.
- charonn0 14y ago
  Survive, yes. But then even Sen. Byrd later said, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened." He also stated that he was no longer a member when he ran for Congress. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06...

Dracosphinx 14y ago

The Golden Dawn party has had 18 officials elected to office. They have also been linked to racial and hate crimes since 2002. They used to be a relatively fringe group, but since Greece's bankruptcy, they have been gaining very strong support very fast.

runjake 14y ago
Thank you, this is very concise and useful. If I sounded like I discounted your claims, please don't take it that way. I only wished to learned more about this situation, which I know little about, but could have major implications across Europe and by proxy, the US.
- Dracosphinx 14y ago
  I just wish more people were aware of the disturbing similarities to Wiemar Germany... Here's the leader of GD denying the holocaust and defending Hitler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXy7f17GXtQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXy7f17GXtQ