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The problem with this is that at the time, to my knowledge, Facebook wasn't doing the "Social ads show an advertiser’s message alongside actions you have taken,

by jetti 14y ago

The problem with this is that at the time, to my knowledge, Facebook wasn't doing the "Social ads show an advertiser’s message alongside actions you have taken, such as liking a Page" kind of thing. Since they keep all of this data, anything you do today could be used to promote something in the future without your knowledge. Hell, even visiting a group/business may pop something up "jetti came and saw [insert business here]...shouldn't you?". If they are changing the rules but applying them retroactively, it becomes a situation where you either stop using facebook, log in and do nothing or get them to stop using past and current actions to promote ads.

majormajor 14y ago
Yeah, what FB does with information you give it is subject to change at any time. I "like" some things that I never clicked a Like button for because at some point between 2005 and now they converted the plain text lists of "favorite movies" and such into "Likes" for pages for those movies and all. I'd never bothered to go unlike them, but now I'm concerned that they may be spamming my friends... though, from what I see in my own feed, it's really only brands/politicians/stores that do more aggressive to-friends-of-fans advertising (a 10 year old movie has less to gain from doing that, I guess).
saurik 14y ago
You can disable this functionality: they allow you to explicitly set whether your actions are allowed to be used together with advertisements to your friends; they call this "social ads". To control this, go to "Account Settings", "Facebook Ads", "Ads and friends"/"Edit social ads setting", and tell it to "Pair my social actions with ads for" "No one" and click "Save Changes". https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=ads&section=social https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=ads&section=social
- jetti 14y ago
  That was in the article. This shouldn't have to be disabled, this should have to be enabled. If you are going to enable it by default, how is it ok to show history? There is no possible way you couldn't opted out to a feature that didn't exist when something was liked 3 years ago.
  - saurik 14y ago
    I guess, yes: if you aren't going to use Facebook for three years, maybe you should disable your account before you leave. However, this is still somewhat sensationalistic: the concept of these social ads was very clearly laid out as one of the launch features of Pages back in 2007. https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 """Ads will be getting more relevant and more interesting to you. Instead of random messages from advertisers, we've launched Social Ads. Social Ads provide advertisements alongside related actions your friends have taken on the site. These actions may be things like "Leah is now a fan of The Offspring" (if I added The Offspring to my music) or "Justin wrote a review for Sushi Hut" (If Justin wrote this review on the Sushi Hut page). These actions could then be paired with an ad that either The Offspring or Sushi Hut provides.""" As for this specific feature to turn off these kinds of advertisements, that has existed since just about three years ago: January of 2010 is when they launched the new expanded Facebook privacy settings feature, and this is one of the settings people were talking about. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your-privacy-with-facebook%E2%80%99s-new-privacy-settings-in-17-easy-steps/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your... The scope of when and where they appear has changed somewhat over time, especially in early 2011 with the new "sponsored stories" feature, but the idea of how this feature will work and what it means has been there for much longer than that. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-feed-ads/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-f... Then, in 2012, they added these stories to the news feed (where they were in this article). Again: the places where these ads are shown has changed somewhat over time, but this is the exact same feature and privacy implication as all the earlier variants. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introduce-sponsored-stories-to-news-feed-in-2012/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introdu... I'm thereby somewhat at a loss as to what the real issue is here, or why this is suddenly "news" to anyone: nothing has really changed in how Facebook treats these ads in many years; I'd even go so far as to say in this specific case, they haven't done it ever, but they certainly haven't done it in the last 5 years (since 2007). Regardless, you certainly have had many years now to understand and deactivate this feature: if someone, such as the author of this original post (not you, as maybe you haven't used Facebook since 2009), really care about your privacy, and somehow at the end of 2012 you haven't noticed a giant feature linked both from "Settings" and from "Privacy" on a website that is holding tons of personal information about you, I question whether you (again, OP) really care about your privacy ;P.
- Terretta 14y ago
  Read that page more closely. Your Like can still be used in a sponsored story. His objection is to the "so and so liked this company" in the timeline. That's a sponsored (by that company) story, and not blocked by this setting. You have to unlike the company.
  - saurik 14y ago
    Well, both the original article (before) and the person I replied to (after) seemed to believe that that setting actually would control it, so I wouldn't be so sure about that ;P. The issue here was not the initial advertisement of the like, but that it was appearing over and over and over again later in relation to the Page: this really seems like a Sponsored Story, which is covered as part of Social Ads and this setting (as also described by various articles online if you search for these features and how to disable them).
    - Terretta 14y ago
      > seemed to believe ... so wouldn't be so sure about that ;P Sticking your tongue out and winking doesn't change the fact of what Facebook themselves tell us right on that page: “... independent of this setting, you may still see social actions in other contexts, like in Sponsored Stories...” Believing otherwise may be a bit of cargo culting -- the Sponsor has recently shown you and may simply not be showing you again for a while. Colleagues and I have the setting set to "Pair my social actions with ads for No One", and have had it set since the setting was introduced. Our Likes definitely show up in "Sponsored Stories" whenever the Sponsor wants to pay to show our friends we liked them. As Facebook tells us point blank, we are seeing social actions in Sponsored Stories.

by jetti 14y ago

majormajor 14y ago

Yeah, what FB does with information you give it is subject to change at any time. I "like" some things that I never clicked a Like button for because at some point between 2005 and now they converted the plain text lists of "favorite movies" and such into "Likes" for pages for those movies and all. I'd never bothered to go unlike them, but now I'm concerned that they may be spamming my friends... though, from what I see in my own feed, it's really only brands/politicians/stores that do more aggressive to-friends-of-fans advertising (a 10 year old movie has less to gain from doing that, I guess).

saurik 14y ago

You can disable this functionality: they allow you to explicitly set whether your actions are allowed to be used together with advertisements to your friends; they call this "social ads". To control this, go to "Account Settings", "Facebook Ads", "Ads and friends"/"Edit social ads setting", and tell it to "Pair my social actions with ads for" "No one" and click "Save Changes". https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=ads&section=social https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=ads&section=social

jetti 14y ago
That was in the article. This shouldn't have to be disabled, this should have to be enabled. If you are going to enable it by default, how is it ok to show history? There is no possible way you couldn't opted out to a feature that didn't exist when something was liked 3 years ago.
- saurik 14y ago
  I guess, yes: if you aren't going to use Facebook for three years, maybe you should disable your account before you leave. However, this is still somewhat sensationalistic: the concept of these social ads was very clearly laid out as one of the launch features of Pages back in 2007. https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 https://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=6972252130 """Ads will be getting more relevant and more interesting to you. Instead of random messages from advertisers, we've launched Social Ads. Social Ads provide advertisements alongside related actions your friends have taken on the site. These actions may be things like "Leah is now a fan of The Offspring" (if I added The Offspring to my music) or "Justin wrote a review for Sushi Hut" (If Justin wrote this review on the Sushi Hut page). These actions could then be paired with an ad that either The Offspring or Sushi Hut provides.""" As for this specific feature to turn off these kinds of advertisements, that has existed since just about three years ago: January of 2010 is when they launched the new expanded Facebook privacy settings feature, and this is one of the settings people were talking about. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your-privacy-with-facebook%E2%80%99s-new-privacy-settings-in-17-easy-steps/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/01/19/how-to-protect-your... The scope of when and where they appear has changed somewhat over time, especially in early 2011 with the new "sponsored stories" feature, but the idea of how this feature will work and what it means has been there for much longer than that. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-feed-ads/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/01/24/sponsored-stories-f... Then, in 2012, they added these stories to the news feed (where they were in this article). Again: the places where these ads are shown has changed somewhat over time, but this is the exact same feature and privacy implication as all the earlier variants. http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introduce-sponsored-stories-to-news-feed-in-2012/ http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/12/20/facebook-to-introdu... I'm thereby somewhat at a loss as to what the real issue is here, or why this is suddenly "news" to anyone: nothing has really changed in how Facebook treats these ads in many years; I'd even go so far as to say in this specific case, they haven't done it ever, but they certainly haven't done it in the last 5 years (since 2007). Regardless, you certainly have had many years now to understand and deactivate this feature: if someone, such as the author of this original post (not you, as maybe you haven't used Facebook since 2009), really care about your privacy, and somehow at the end of 2012 you haven't noticed a giant feature linked both from "Settings" and from "Privacy" on a website that is holding tons of personal information about you, I question whether you (again, OP) really care about your privacy ;P.
Terretta 14y ago
Read that page more closely. Your Like can still be used in a sponsored story. His objection is to the "so and so liked this company" in the timeline. That's a sponsored (by that company) story, and not blocked by this setting. You have to unlike the company.
- saurik 14y ago
  Well, both the original article (before) and the person I replied to (after) seemed to believe that that setting actually would control it, so I wouldn't be so sure about that ;P. The issue here was not the initial advertisement of the like, but that it was appearing over and over and over again later in relation to the Page: this really seems like a Sponsored Story, which is covered as part of Social Ads and this setting (as also described by various articles online if you search for these features and how to disable them).
  - Terretta 14y ago
    > seemed to believe ... so wouldn't be so sure about that ;P Sticking your tongue out and winking doesn't change the fact of what Facebook themselves tell us right on that page: “... independent of this setting, you may still see social actions in other contexts, like in Sponsored Stories...” Believing otherwise may be a bit of cargo culting -- the Sponsor has recently shown you and may simply not be showing you again for a while. Colleagues and I have the setting set to "Pair my social actions with ads for No One", and have had it set since the setting was introduced. Our Likes definitely show up in "Sponsored Stories" whenever the Sponsor wants to pay to show our friends we liked them. As Facebook tells us point blank, we are seeing social actions in Sponsored Stories.