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Everything I've read about Frameworks quality control makes the above very doubtful. If you watch the sales on other laptops you can easily get similar specs f

Everything I've read about Frameworks quality control makes the above very doubtful. If you watch the sales on other laptops you can easily get similar specs for half of what framework is charging. I have a 5070TI laptop I purchased for around 1200$ after a rebate. Not only does the Framework 16 only offer the significantly weaker 5070 addon, it ends up totalling to about 2500$. Maybe in 5 or 6 years Framework will sort out its QC and offer better GPUs, but it's not for me today.

BiteCode_dev 6mo ago
It's already the case. I plan to upgrade my old 13 with some parts from the pro next year. I won't have to pay a full machine for a new screen, battery or touchpad. At the price of the RAM (I never fill my 32GB, why would I buy any?), not buying a new machine basically pays for the first laptop premium. Next upgrade, I'll be saving money. And giving money to an ecosystem I like, creating a stronger competitor with those values. Love it.
tredre3 6mo ago
> If you watch the sales on other laptops you can easily get similar specs for half of what framework is charging. I have a 5070TI laptop I purchased for around 1200$ after a rebate. Just to be clear: You are comparing today's Framework regular prices to a laptop you bought months or years ago, on sale?
- 999900000999 6mo ago
  I'm comparing the Framework 16's price with its addon to what was competing in the market around December 2025. Almost every Windows laptop is perpetually on sale after the first few months. If we want to crank it up a notch, MSI Raider 16 Max HX (2026): 16" QHD+ 240Hz OLED, Intel Ultra 9 290HX Plus, RTX 5080, 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD $2299.99 https://slickdeals.net/f/19458276-msi-raider-16-max-hx-2026-16-qhd-240hz-oled-intel-ultra-9-290hx-plus-rtx-5080-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-2299-99?src=category_page https://slickdeals.net/f/19458276-msi-raider-16-max-hx-2026-... A 5080 laptop with 16 GB of VRAM Vs about 3000$ for the Framework with a 5070 and 8 GB of VRAM.

BiteCode_dev 6mo ago

It's already the case. I plan to upgrade my old 13 with some parts from the pro next year. I won't have to pay a full machine for a new screen, battery or touchpad. At the price of the RAM (I never fill my 32GB, why would I buy any?), not buying a new machine basically pays for the first laptop premium. Next upgrade, I'll be saving money. And giving money to an ecosystem I like, creating a stronger competitor with those values. Love it.

tredre3 6mo ago

> If you watch the sales on other laptops you can easily get similar specs for half of what framework is charging. I have a 5070TI laptop I purchased for around 1200$ after a rebate. Just to be clear: You are comparing today's Framework regular prices to a laptop you bought months or years ago, on sale?

999900000999 6mo ago
I'm comparing the Framework 16's price with its addon to what was competing in the market around December 2025. Almost every Windows laptop is perpetually on sale after the first few months. If we want to crank it up a notch, MSI Raider 16 Max HX (2026): 16" QHD+ 240Hz OLED, Intel Ultra 9 290HX Plus, RTX 5080, 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD $2299.99 https://slickdeals.net/f/19458276-msi-raider-16-max-hx-2026-16-qhd-240hz-oled-intel-ultra-9-290hx-plus-rtx-5080-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-2299-99?src=category_page https://slickdeals.net/f/19458276-msi-raider-16-max-hx-2026-... A 5080 laptop with 16 GB of VRAM Vs about 3000$ for the Framework with a 5070 and 8 GB of VRAM.