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Does anyone know how the Intel and AMD offerings compare? I take it battery life is better on Intel. What about performance for different tasks, such as codin
by cassianoleal 6mo ago
Does anyone know how the Intel and AMD offerings compare?
I take it battery life is better on Intel.
What about performance for different tasks, such as coding, compiling, etc. What about local LLMs? Do both platforms have "unified memory" à la Apple Silicon? Neither?
- sam_lowry_ 6mo agoAmd versions can not suspend to RAM, I heard.
- hexfish 6mo agoYou mean just suspend as in 'sleep'? Like closing the lid on a macbook. I am doing that with the regular framework 13 (same amd though) multiple times a day.
- sam_lowry_ 6mo agoAnd this drains 10-20% of battery per day?
- cromka 6mo agoIt's called s2idle and all modern CPUs rely on that, not just AMD. S3 was made obsolete.
- dijit 6mo agoif I understood right, the AMD chip is more power hungry due to not having the ultra-low-energy cores, and doesn’t support the new USB-4 standard. Benchmarks have to wait until the actual Intel chip is out.
- lpcvoid 6mo agoMy 7840u can do USB4 with PCIe lanes, and that's from 2023. Of course AMD can do USB4.
- craftkiller 6mo agoThe AMD board support USB4 40gbps in 2 of the 4 expansion slots. 7040: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionality-on-framework-laptop-13-amd-ryzen-7040-series-SkrVx7gAh https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionalit... AI 300: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionality-on-framework-laptop-13-amd-ryzen-ai-300-series-Hy5SfMRs1l https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionalit... Pro with AI 300: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionality-on-framework-laptop-13-pro-amd-ryzen-ai-300-series-rJhi9ErTl https://knowledgebase.frame.work/expansion-card-functionalit... The nice part about the Intel board is all 4 ports support usb4/thunderbolt 4 so all 4 ports are completely interchangeable whereas on the AMD board I need to remember to plug my dock into the back ports closer to the hinge.
- dijit 6mo agoThanks for checking! I am on my phone and I just remembered that the connectivity was somehow less. :)
- adgjlsfhk1 6mo agoAMD unfortunately didn't actually get faster this gen. panther lake is faster than zen5 mobile for both cpu and GPU (except for workloads where avx512 matters)
- distances 6mo agoYes it was a bit weird how the latest generation AMD laptop chip was a sideways step. I blame the useless NPU wasting silicon, but what do I know. I still got it as it was better than Intel's last year's offering, and it's still a fine chip. But kind of highlights how good the previous 7000 series chip was.
- robotnikman 6mo agoIt looks like Intel's new Panther Lake chips are a hit, they have amazing battery life and performance compared to their AMD and ARM equivalents (excluding Apple ofc), and the the integrated graphics is better than AMD, ARM, or Apple. They do not have integrated memory, but by using LPCAMM2 they get better memory speeds than any laptops using the usual SODIMM memory modules. It's nice to see Intel on the upswing again, more competition is always a good thing.
- cassianoleal 6mo ago> they get better memory speeds I saw that, but how does that work for GPU workloads? Either games of AI, really. Do I need to set a value on the BIOS for how much of the memory is split between RAM and VRAM?
- cromka 6mo ago> and ARM equivalents (excluding Apple ofc) Excluding Qualcomm as well, especially excluding the X2 Elite.