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been building on claude code for a while. the post's framing is right. mcp gives you open standards on the tool layer but the harness (claude code, cursor) is

been building on claude code for a while. the post's framing is right. mcp gives you open standards on the tool layer but the harness (claude code, cursor) is still proprietary. your product is one anthropic decision away from breaking. the user agent role the post calls for needs open harnesses, not just open standards. otherwise we end up rebuilding mobile under a new name.

phillc73 6mo ago
These are already available. Mistral’s Vibe CLI[1] is open source. Tools like goose[2]are API agnostic. [1] https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe [2] https://goose-docs.ai/ https://goose-docs.ai/
- aykutseker 6mo ago
  thanks, will try both. if you've actually migrated an existing claude code setup to one of them, curious how the portability story worked. that's the part i'd been worried about.
  - phillc73 6mo ago
    Sorry, I can’t help with that, as I’ve never actually used Claude. Started with Mistral and stuck there (they still have a free API tier, but I ended up buying their Le Chat Pro service anyway, for the image generation).
  - SyneRyder 6mo ago
    I've not tried actually migrating from Claude Code... but having played a bit with other clients, I would avoid Mistral Vibe. I want to love it, there's some things that are nice about Vibe (mostly just "oui oui baguette"), but the things I did not like about it were disastrously bad. I could barely get MCP servers configured, and it was in something of a broken state even when I did get it working. I have many words about how horrified I am at how far behind Mistral is, but I will spare the rant. OpenCode is another one to consider looking at: https://opencode.ai/ https://opencode.ai/ Not sure I'd recommend it, but it's worthy of consideration, as is Pi. Also, consider that you can build your own. I've got Claude Code in the background working on improvements to my own harness (just for myself) at the moment. Though my intention is to have a mini API-only Claude Code that I can use on retro machines that don't support it, I don't need a full Claude Code feature set.
- dbmikus 6mo ago
  A couple other major open source harnesses: - https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/ https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/ - https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode
boredatoms 6mo ago
https://pi.dev/ https://pi.dev/
KaiShips 6mo ago
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hrimfaxi 6mo ago
opencode is open source
pando85 6mo ago
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phillc73 6mo ago

These are already available. Mistral’s Vibe CLI[1] is open source. Tools like goose[2]are API agnostic. [1] https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe [2] https://goose-docs.ai/ https://goose-docs.ai/

aykutseker 6mo ago
thanks, will try both. if you've actually migrated an existing claude code setup to one of them, curious how the portability story worked. that's the part i'd been worried about.
- phillc73 6mo ago
  Sorry, I can’t help with that, as I’ve never actually used Claude. Started with Mistral and stuck there (they still have a free API tier, but I ended up buying their Le Chat Pro service anyway, for the image generation).
- SyneRyder 6mo ago
  I've not tried actually migrating from Claude Code... but having played a bit with other clients, I would avoid Mistral Vibe. I want to love it, there's some things that are nice about Vibe (mostly just "oui oui baguette"), but the things I did not like about it were disastrously bad. I could barely get MCP servers configured, and it was in something of a broken state even when I did get it working. I have many words about how horrified I am at how far behind Mistral is, but I will spare the rant. OpenCode is another one to consider looking at: https://opencode.ai/ https://opencode.ai/ Not sure I'd recommend it, but it's worthy of consideration, as is Pi. Also, consider that you can build your own. I've got Claude Code in the background working on improvements to my own harness (just for myself) at the moment. Though my intention is to have a mini API-only Claude Code that I can use on retro machines that don't support it, I don't need a full Claude Code feature set.
dbmikus 6mo ago
A couple other major open source harnesses: - https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/ https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/ - https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode

boredatoms 6mo ago

https://pi.dev/ https://pi.dev/

KaiShips 6mo ago

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hrimfaxi 6mo ago

opencode is open source

pando85 6mo ago

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