>for it to make sense Mmmm..I didn't make that argument. I was talking about keeping the behavior of the people good and aligned with the goals of the society.

>for it to make sense Mmmm..I didn't make that argument. I was talking about keeping the behavior of the people good and aligned with the goals of the society. Who cares if it was a lie, if it provides happiness and peace? The problem happened because the "leaders" started using it for selfish reasons. You got that problem in Science also, probably in a much worsened form.