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Sad that you have given up
by ashtonshears 5mo ago
Sad that you have given up
- vasco 5mo ago[flagged]
- goreeStef 5mo ago[flagged]
- Pay08 5mo agoSad that you want a return to the Reign of Terror.
- goreeStef 5mo agoYes we should just calmly ignore private insurance death panels, propped up by politicians, killing treatable people at scale rather than put the fear in a few thousand rich people physics didn't see fit to spare from eventual biological death anyway (since they love to trot out that argument). To say nothing of the processed food and automobile industries.
- harimau777 5mo agoWhat's your alternative? The present situation is intollerable and even a bad solution is better than no solution.
- Pay08 5mo agoThe present situation is very tolerable, actually.
- NoGravitas 5mo agoFor you.
- ashtonshears 5mo agoDont defend accepting corruption, thats so lame
- ashtonshears 5mo agoBut, being more respectful to you and who i orignally replied to — yes actual revolution could/would be brutal and could/would create a much worse daily life for the non-elites. Still, as I bet you could agree when not aguing semantics, its inexusable for people to declare we should accept corruption
- jjk166 5mo ago> yes actual revolution would be brutal, and could/would create a much worse daily life for the non-elites. 50% of revolutions in the past 200 years have been non-violent, and the non-violent ones have a much higher success rate. Even for violent revolutions, most aren't brutal. When there is brutality, it's usually because the pre-existing conditions were already brutal.
- ashtonshears 5mo agoI appreciate that info
- Pay08 5mo agoThat comes with the caveat that most revolutions happen against failed states. Those pretty much don't get the chance to be violent.
- rithdmc 5mo agoWhy do people assume revolutionary action must be violent? Emmeline Pankhurst will want to have words with them.
- Pay08 5mo agoHave you seen people?
- rithdmc 5mo ago> You really need to read up on your history. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47888542 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47888542
- Pay08 5mo agoThe suffragette movement was hardly a revolution in the traditional sense.
- rithdmc 5mo agoGiving so many people the ability to vote was absolutely a fundamental shift in the social, political, or societal order, so is absolutely a traditional revolution. This is just the 'no true scotsman' argument.
- guzfip 5mo ago[flagged]
- jjk166 5mo agoReturn? We never had a reign of terror. There have been hundreds of peaceful revolutions.
- Pay08 5mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
- NoGravitas 5mo ago“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.” ― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
- jjk166 5mo agoI am familiar with the Reign of Terror, which gets capitalized because of it's singular uniqueness, but I am also not an 18th century French peasant, or a Frenchman at all for that matter. I doubt most of the people on this thread are either. When I say "we" I am referring to an immensely large group of people for whom "the revolution" refers to an event which did not include a reign of terror.