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Let's compare with the Soviets and conclude the obvious: the US did retreat.

by spwa4 7mo ago

MiiMe19 7mo ago
Me looking for the soviet military bases rn EDIT: I completely misunderstood the context here, nevermind.
- spwa4 7mo ago
  I live in the Netherlands. The closest one was about 260 km from where I live. Of course, not any more.
  - coldtea 7mo ago
    Was that on a country that went on a genocidal rampage just before and lost the war after killing millions all around Europe, which was decided to be divided in several parts, of which USSR got to control one, and which still developed into an independent country less than a decade later?
    - spwa4 7mo ago
      Yes, but you're leaving out the other 9 countries the Soviet Union occupied, and immediately started killing the population to keep their conquests: Poland, Austria’s Soviet zone, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. By contrast, the US retreated. And also didn't start killing any population.
      - cogman10 7mo ago
        > And also didn't start killing any population. Except for the populations in the global South. We spent a decade firebombing Vietnam and Cambodia.
      - coldtea 7mo ago
        "Killing their population" as in executing some Nazi collaborators, of which there was no shortage in all, down to full cooperation? Like the ones involved in the Axis alliance and in the eastern front offensives that caused the deaths of millions of their own people? >And also didn't start killing any population. Yes, just Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and anybody who leaned national sovereignity/left in the Latin America and later the middle east.
  - MiiMe19 7mo ago
    I completely misunderstood the context of this discussion and revoke my mildly snarky comment. You are correct.
    - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
      Out of genuine (and goodwilled) curiosity, how had you read it?
  - throw1234567891 7mo ago
    To be fair, if you stand in the middle of The Netherlands, 260km in any direction and you end up outside of the country. Which base are you talking about?
psadauskas 7mo ago
The US has over 128 military bases in 55 foreign countries. Russia has 12, mostly in former Soviet countries. China has 3.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
  > Russia has 12, mostly in former Soviet countries. China has 3 To be fair, you're comparing land powers–that tend to annex their holdings–with a maritime power, who tend to trade with and maintain favourable ports at their conquests/allies. So yeah, China doesn't have any foreign bases in Tibet. But that's because it annexed it in the 1950s. Put together, America obviously has a larger military than China or Russia. But before Russia became a rump, the Soviet Union could marshall military resources comparable to–and for one decade, in excess of–those of the United States for much of the post-War era.
- throw0101d 6mo ago
  > The US has over 128 military bases in 55 foreign countries. Are those 55 countries forced to have US military bases, or are they willing/happy to have them around? Estonia wants more US troops: * https://news.err.ee/1609992007/estonia-signals-willingness-to-host-more-us-troops https://news.err.ee/1609992007/estonia-signals-willingness-t... The Philippines is also good with the US expanding its presence: * https://news.usni.org/2026/02/02/u-s-army-quietly-stands-up-rotational-force-in-the-philippines https://news.usni.org/2026/02/02/u-s-army-quietly-stands-up-... * https://time.com/6252750/philippines-us-military-agreement-china/ https://time.com/6252750/philippines-us-military-agreement-c...
- spwa4 6mo ago
  How many "foreign" bases did Russia have a few years after WW2, before revolutions kicked them out? Before Russia annexed countries and destroyed the populations? Because that's, of course, the real question. It's literally thousands. You need thousands of military bases if you're going to do "thought police". Because that's what you'll never read here. Russia HAD a (military) thought police. It was Putin's job when he got started, by the way.

Let's compare with the Soviets and conclude the obvious: the US did retreat.

by spwa4 7mo ago

Let's compare with the Soviets and conclude the obvious: the US did retreat.

MiiMe19 7mo ago

Me looking for the soviet military bases rn EDIT: I completely misunderstood the context here, nevermind.

spwa4 7mo ago
I live in the Netherlands. The closest one was about 260 km from where I live. Of course, not any more.
- coldtea 7mo ago
  Was that on a country that went on a genocidal rampage just before and lost the war after killing millions all around Europe, which was decided to be divided in several parts, of which USSR got to control one, and which still developed into an independent country less than a decade later?
  - spwa4 7mo ago
    Yes, but you're leaving out the other 9 countries the Soviet Union occupied, and immediately started killing the population to keep their conquests: Poland, Austria’s Soviet zone, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. By contrast, the US retreated. And also didn't start killing any population.
    - cogman10 7mo ago
      > And also didn't start killing any population. Except for the populations in the global South. We spent a decade firebombing Vietnam and Cambodia.
    - coldtea 7mo ago
      "Killing their population" as in executing some Nazi collaborators, of which there was no shortage in all, down to full cooperation? Like the ones involved in the Axis alliance and in the eastern front offensives that caused the deaths of millions of their own people? >And also didn't start killing any population. Yes, just Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and anybody who leaned national sovereignity/left in the Latin America and later the middle east.
- MiiMe19 7mo ago
  I completely misunderstood the context of this discussion and revoke my mildly snarky comment. You are correct.
  - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
    Out of genuine (and goodwilled) curiosity, how had you read it?
- throw1234567891 7mo ago
  To be fair, if you stand in the middle of The Netherlands, 260km in any direction and you end up outside of the country. Which base are you talking about?

psadauskas 7mo ago

The US has over 128 military bases in 55 foreign countries. Russia has 12, mostly in former Soviet countries. China has 3.

JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
> Russia has 12, mostly in former Soviet countries. China has 3 To be fair, you're comparing land powers–that tend to annex their holdings–with a maritime power, who tend to trade with and maintain favourable ports at their conquests/allies. So yeah, China doesn't have any foreign bases in Tibet. But that's because it annexed it in the 1950s. Put together, America obviously has a larger military than China or Russia. But before Russia became a rump, the Soviet Union could marshall military resources comparable to–and for one decade, in excess of–those of the United States for much of the post-War era.
throw0101d 6mo ago
> The US has over 128 military bases in 55 foreign countries. Are those 55 countries forced to have US military bases, or are they willing/happy to have them around? Estonia wants more US troops: * https://news.err.ee/1609992007/estonia-signals-willingness-to-host-more-us-troops https://news.err.ee/1609992007/estonia-signals-willingness-t... The Philippines is also good with the US expanding its presence: * https://news.usni.org/2026/02/02/u-s-army-quietly-stands-up-rotational-force-in-the-philippines https://news.usni.org/2026/02/02/u-s-army-quietly-stands-up-... * https://time.com/6252750/philippines-us-military-agreement-china/ https://time.com/6252750/philippines-us-military-agreement-c...
spwa4 6mo ago
How many "foreign" bases did Russia have a few years after WW2, before revolutions kicked them out? Before Russia annexed countries and destroyed the populations? Because that's, of course, the real question. It's literally thousands. You need thousands of military bases if you're going to do "thought police". Because that's what you'll never read here. Russia HAD a (military) thought police. It was Putin's job when he got started, by the way.