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Actually it's extremely well documented in science studies that money absolutely makes you happy up to a certain point. Basically if you don't have a home and f

by tensor 5mo ago

Actually it's extremely well documented in science studies that money absolutely makes you happy up to a certain point. Basically if you don't have a home and food due to not enough funds, then yes money absolutely equals happiness. Inequality has grown to the point where the majority of younger people now have no hope of ever owning a home, and even large parts of the country are struggling with something as basic as food. The HN crowd lives in a top 5% bubble and often forgets how bad it is for most people. All this talk of "money doesn't make happiness" is terrible. Money for basic necessities is the problem here.

justsomehnguy 5mo ago
> in science studies that money absolutely makes you happy up to a certain point Perceived happines. It's hard to talk about happines with a person with an empty stomach. But I was much more happy when I was young and poor than I became a not poor but no longer a young one.
- Gander5739 5mo ago
  > Perceived hapiness Is there any other kind?
  - justsomehnguy 5mo ago
    You can buy any bicycle[0] you want when you are rich but if you didn't had a bicycle in your childhood then you didn't had a bicycle in your childhood. [0] or LEGO, Transformers action figure, whatever
- ninalanyon 5mo ago
  That's not because you were poor then and not now but because you had few responsibilities then and many now. When you were young your needs were small and solely affected you, now your needs encompass those of family (I'm guessing that you have children). Even without family you have responsibilities to society and employer that you either did not have when young or that were simply less urgent.
thephyber 5mo ago
It goes a little further than “money for basic necessities”. It’s about being able to provide the necessities AND having income security. I remember reading about a study that said poor people who have to scramble to deal with all of the extra steps that accompany being poor (no credit cards, maybe no bank account, dealing with getting utilities turned back on, etc) is the equivalent of losing about 15 IQ points from your optimal. It’s the difference between being able to work “in the zone” / flow state frequently and being always stuck in “fight or flight” mode. One makes you successful while the other actively sabotages you.
eudamoniac 5mo ago
> Inequality has grown to the point where the majority of younger people now have no hope of ever owning a home Please stop repeating this myth. Look further up the thread for gen Z homeowner statistics.
tmvphil 5mo ago
No, happiness increases linearly with log(money), well beyond basic necessities https://happiness-science.org/price-of-happiness/ https://happiness-science.org/price-of-happiness/

by tensor 5mo ago

justsomehnguy 5mo ago

> in science studies that money absolutely makes you happy up to a certain point Perceived happines. It's hard to talk about happines with a person with an empty stomach. But I was much more happy when I was young and poor than I became a not poor but no longer a young one.

Gander5739 5mo ago
> Perceived hapiness Is there any other kind?
- justsomehnguy 5mo ago
  You can buy any bicycle[0] you want when you are rich but if you didn't had a bicycle in your childhood then you didn't had a bicycle in your childhood. [0] or LEGO, Transformers action figure, whatever
ninalanyon 5mo ago
That's not because you were poor then and not now but because you had few responsibilities then and many now. When you were young your needs were small and solely affected you, now your needs encompass those of family (I'm guessing that you have children). Even without family you have responsibilities to society and employer that you either did not have when young or that were simply less urgent.

thephyber 5mo ago

It goes a little further than “money for basic necessities”. It’s about being able to provide the necessities AND having income security. I remember reading about a study that said poor people who have to scramble to deal with all of the extra steps that accompany being poor (no credit cards, maybe no bank account, dealing with getting utilities turned back on, etc) is the equivalent of losing about 15 IQ points from your optimal. It’s the difference between being able to work “in the zone” / flow state frequently and being always stuck in “fight or flight” mode. One makes you successful while the other actively sabotages you.

eudamoniac 5mo ago

> Inequality has grown to the point where the majority of younger people now have no hope of ever owning a home Please stop repeating this myth. Look further up the thread for gen Z homeowner statistics.

tmvphil 5mo ago

No, happiness increases linearly with log(money), well beyond basic necessities https://happiness-science.org/price-of-happiness/ https://happiness-science.org/price-of-happiness/