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Reducing your workforce always means you either made a strategic mistake, your bottom line is hurting, your growth is stagnating or you hired McKinsey (lol) not

Reducing your workforce always means you either made a strategic mistake, your bottom line is hurting, your growth is stagnating or you hired McKinsey (lol) not a good sign for company health and always bad for morale.

matchbok3 6mo ago
Literally not true. Some bets just don't work. If a company tries to enter some new market and fails, they may use a layoff.
- shimman 6mo ago
  "Some bets didn't work so let's destroy lives and cause needless suicides. It wasn't my fault, I was only following orders." - Random Meta VP of Customer Misery.
  - matchbok 6mo ago
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  - singpolyma3 6mo ago
    Because hiring people and paying them a salary is somehow hurting those people?
    - shimman 6mo ago
      No but purposely forcing economic hardship on people when you're one of the most profitable entities on earth will always be a shitty thing. I'm sorry but treating workers like replaceable cogs is disgusting behavior and I'm not shocked that big tech routinely turns to anti-worker devices to enforce control.
      - matchbok 6mo ago
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      - matchbok3 6mo ago
        Nobody is forcing anything to happen. People chose to work there. They get paid a HUGE amount of money. Now their projects ended or whatever. What world do you live in? Suicide? Crazy talk.
        gnabgib 6mo ago
        I'm not sure the 3 version of your account is going to fare better than the last[0] if you don't find a better way to contribute to the community. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=matchbok https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=matchbok
        matchbok3 6mo ago
        Solid contribution!
        shimman 6mo ago
        I like how the account is just nothing but attacking workers while supporting the rich, classic VC mindset.
        matchbok3 6mo ago
        Attacking? Nowhere did I attack anybody. Explaining what a layoff is not "attacking". If you are offended by market economics I suggest you get thicker skin.
        deleted 6mo ago
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        shimman 6mo ago
        Man if you don't understand how unemployment leads to suicide you are truly a privilege individual. I honestly envy you now.
- BoredPositron 6mo ago
  Sounds like a strategic mistake.
- nrb 6mo ago
  The strategic mistake is that they don’t have any other good ideas to deploy these folks toward. A company of this size and financial condition in technology with exceptional leadership should not be out of good ideas.
  - matchbok3 6mo ago
    I mean, no company ever has solved that problem soooo
    - nrb 6mo ago
      Well Apple seems to be able to largely avoid these staffing whiplash problems… I mainly call them problems because hugely scaling your org up and down on a whim is extremely inefficient when your recruiting and onboarding costs are high. Surely it’s more wise to repurpose the people you already have unless you have no time horizon on appropriate new areas of R&D.

matchbok3 6mo ago

Literally not true. Some bets just don't work. If a company tries to enter some new market and fails, they may use a layoff.

shimman 6mo ago
"Some bets didn't work so let's destroy lives and cause needless suicides. It wasn't my fault, I was only following orders." - Random Meta VP of Customer Misery.
- matchbok 6mo ago
  [dead]
- singpolyma3 6mo ago
  Because hiring people and paying them a salary is somehow hurting those people?
  - shimman 6mo ago
    No but purposely forcing economic hardship on people when you're one of the most profitable entities on earth will always be a shitty thing. I'm sorry but treating workers like replaceable cogs is disgusting behavior and I'm not shocked that big tech routinely turns to anti-worker devices to enforce control.
    - matchbok 6mo ago
      [dead]
    - matchbok3 6mo ago
      Nobody is forcing anything to happen. People chose to work there. They get paid a HUGE amount of money. Now their projects ended or whatever. What world do you live in? Suicide? Crazy talk.
      - gnabgib 6mo ago
        I'm not sure the 3 version of your account is going to fare better than the last[0] if you don't find a better way to contribute to the community. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=matchbok https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=matchbok
        matchbok3 6mo ago
        Solid contribution!
        shimman 6mo ago
        I like how the account is just nothing but attacking workers while supporting the rich, classic VC mindset.
        matchbok3 6mo ago
        Attacking? Nowhere did I attack anybody. Explaining what a layoff is not "attacking". If you are offended by market economics I suggest you get thicker skin.
        deleted 6mo ago
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      - shimman 6mo ago
        Man if you don't understand how unemployment leads to suicide you are truly a privilege individual. I honestly envy you now.
BoredPositron 6mo ago
Sounds like a strategic mistake.
nrb 6mo ago
The strategic mistake is that they don’t have any other good ideas to deploy these folks toward. A company of this size and financial condition in technology with exceptional leadership should not be out of good ideas.
- matchbok3 6mo ago
  I mean, no company ever has solved that problem soooo
  - nrb 6mo ago
    Well Apple seems to be able to largely avoid these staffing whiplash problems… I mainly call them problems because hugely scaling your org up and down on a whim is extremely inefficient when your recruiting and onboarding costs are high. Surely it’s more wise to repurpose the people you already have unless you have no time horizon on appropriate new areas of R&D.