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Why did she name him Dippy and not a proper Welsh name like "Cadwaladr" or "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?"
by fortran77 6mo ago
Why did she name him Dippy and not a proper Welsh name like "Cadwaladr" or "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?"
- codezero 6mo agoI think her family was visiting Wales, rather than being natives :)
- renewiltord 6mo ago[flagged]
- deleted 6mo ago[deleted]
- wizzwizz4 6mo agoWales is a lot smaller than the continental United States. What do you expect them to say? "Cardiff is part of Wales, unceded territory of the Welsh"? That would be entirely performative. If you feel strongly about this topic, you ought to demand more meaningful steps, such as the use of Welsh language place names.
- renewiltord 6mo agoI just think they should acknowledge the native people whose land it is. It’s not performative unless you’re a MAGA fascist. It’s just considerate.
- wizzwizz4 6mo agoWhat form would such an acknowledgement take?
- ButlerianJihad 6mo ago"We inhabitants of Dry Land must acknowledge that we all descended from these superior beings of Water Worlds. All the salt water in our veins is a debt and homage to the Water Beings from whom we stole it. We Dry Landers will forever devote ourselves to lifting up on a pedestal, these Water Beings, as long as that pedestal is submerged deep underwater. We solemnly pledge and promise the payment of reparations, in the form of Sea Monkeys for breakfast."
- renewiltord 6mo agoThere are many good examples online if you care to actually do it rather than perform ironic questioning as an art form.
- da_lawyah 6mo agorerewhiner
- wizzwizz4 6mo agoYeah: and none for Wales. There's a database (https://historical-boundaries-of-wales-rcahmw.hub.arcgis.com/ https://historical-boundaries-of-wales-rcahmw.hub.arcgis.com...), but I've never ever seen or heard anyone using this information to make land acknowledgements, nor can I find examples online. The last major genocide in Wales, to my knowledge, was over a thousand years ago: none of the cultures involved still exist in any meaningful form. The closest we have in modern times is events like Boddi Tryweryn (the 1965 destruction of Capel Celyn), and everybody knows about those. You can't just take a cultural practice (land acknowledgements) from one part of the world (Abya Yala, Ahitereiria, Aotearoa, Te Waipounamu), and copy-paste it onto a different part of the world (Wales), and expect it to have the same significance. That's cultural appropriation, and it is frowned upon: by reducing the significance of an act to empty symbology and meaningless facade, you do harm in the trappings of a revolutionary activism intended, by its actual practitioners, to reduce and mitigate harm. Ironically, I'm right now appropriating the vocabulary of those activists – probably incorrectly – in order to try to win an argument with no real significance, on a forum run by Venture Capital. But this isn't a particularly harmful thing for me to be doing (except perhaps to my reputation: what if the children call me cringe?), so I think it's alright.
- ralferoo 6mo agoIndeed. The article says the family was visiting from Leicester.
- tonyarkles 6mo ago"siliogogogoch" for short :)
- Anthony-G 6mo agoOff Topic: when I came across the journalist/writer, Anne Cadwallader, I used to wonder about the origin of her surname. After reading this comment, I finally decide to look it up and found that her About page at https://www.annecadwallader.com/about https://www.annecadwallader.com/about explains it well: > “Cadwallader” comes from the Welsh/Briton from Cadwaladr, meaning “battle leader” or “warrior” (cad ”battle” + gwaladr “leader/ruler”). The name dates back to the 7th century, notably held by King Cadwaladr of Gwynedd.