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>All the more reason why we need workplace democracy. The elites clearly do not know how to run a business and the economy is the final frontier for democracy t
by krapp 6mo ago
>All the more reason why we need workplace democracy. The elites clearly do not know how to run a business and the economy is the final frontier for democracy to expand into.
One might almost say workers should... own the means of production?
- oytis 6mo agoEvery programmer owns the means of code production (unless they forgot how to code without Claude). Turns out it's not necessarily enough to make money.
- oblio 6mo agoCode production is not code distribution nor code advertisement, nor code marketing in general, etc.
- oytis 6mo agoYeah, that's the thing. You need the whole business to turn code into money, and you need this business to be run well, and either do what people with big money want it to do or to make lots of people with small money pay for its product regularly. Either way, it's not what autonomous programmer commune will do well in my opinion
- bombcar 6mo agoIt's usual for the programmers (or laborers in general, perhaps) to assume that their portion of the business does all the "real work" and the 60-70% "rest of the company" do nothing and add no value.
- jerkstate 6mo agoThe means of production are for sale, they can own them if they want!
- skirmish 6mo agoBut we don't pay for coding tools, we want them for free!
- bee_rider 6mo agoAlthough, Facebook doesn’t produce much, right? Some glasses I guess. “Workers should own the means of collecting data to influence people towards some sources of production” doesn’t have quite the ring to it.
- readthenotes1 6mo agoWorkplace democracy would work better than democracy does anywhere else? And, of course, every tech worker already has a vote. As the saying goes: they can vote with their feet.
- lamasery 6mo agoIt's a catchy turn of phrase, but of course a vote and an option to leave aren't the same thing at all.