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100% right. What we (rather 80+ year old corrupt politicians) did to young people during covid was downright criminal. Almost two of their most important years

by bjourne 6mo ago

100% right. What we (rather 80+ year old corrupt politicians) did to young people during covid was downright criminal. Almost two of their most important years destroyed.

phtrivier 6mo ago
Well, to be fair, it allowed some of the old people to survive more than two years, so... Young people should react by voting in people who will defend them. Instead, they joined the elderly un voting for Trump. Go figure.
- tzs 6mo ago
  Boomers only slightly favored Trump in 2024. Young voters (Gen Z) went Harris by 10 points. People in the first ~1/2 of middle age (Millennials) slightly favored Harris. It was the second ~1/2 of middle age (Gen X) that were pro Trump, by 6 points. Boomers had the best turnout. 31% of eligible voters but 40% of actual voters. Gen X was 28% of eligible voters and 26% of actual voters. Millennials were also 28% of eligible voters and were 25% of actual voters. Gen Z was 13% of eligible voters but only 9% of actual voters.
  - phtrivier 6mo ago
    A group "slightly" favoring Harris, thanks to the electoral college, is a group that favors Trump :P Also, gen z favored Haris by ONLY 10 points ? As in 55/45 ? Isn't the stat usually more on the order of 60/40 (if not 65/35) for this age group ?
    - tzs 6mo ago
      But also due to the electoral college a small change in turnout in swing states can have a large effect. None of the swing states had higher than average Boomer concentration. Pennsylvania is right about average, and the rest were all lower. Gen Z went for Biden by 24 points, but the shifted right for 2024 so only went for Harris by 10. Millennials were similar, going for Biden by 19. Gen X favored Trump in 2020 by about about 6% and in 2024 by about 8%. Only Boomers have moved left. They favored Trump by 8% over Clinton, about 5% over Biden, but then only 1-2% over Harris.
      - phtrivier 6mo ago
        > Gen Z went for Biden by 24 points, but the shifted right for 2024 so only went for Harris by 10. Kinda confirms my point, no ? Sure, not a "majority" of Gen Z went for Trump. But such a shift has to mean _something_ was done wrong. That being said, I once again got my timing wrong - most of the restrictions of covid happened before Biden was elected, so it would not really make sense for them to blame it on Biden. I suppose inflation was enough for them...
watwut 6mo ago
Young people were more pro lockdowns then old people. And also, America did nit had two years of lockdowns.
- chasd00 6mo ago
  absolutely true. Masks + lockdown hobbies (baking etc) were virtue signaling and everywhere online.
  - mjmsmith 6mo ago
    Many Americans were traumatized by being asked to wear a mask because they’re big angry babies. Many other Americans were traumatized by the discovery that they’re surrounded by big angry babies.
    - giardini 6mo ago
      I began watching for Covid cases early. I asked everyone I met: "Have you had Covid?" and "Do you know anyone who has had covid?" Six months into the pandemic only a single acquaintance claimed to have had the disease. A year later and there were only 3 such people. To this day I count no more than 5. I believe that the story of the pandemic has yet to be written. IMO the "powers that be" panicked and drove the population into mass hysteria. Or perhaps they used the pandemic to achieve political ends. There were definitely cases among certain populations: esp. elderly and immune-compromised in some cities. And there was a world of mismanagement: masks, ventilators, makeshift hospitals, quarantine facilities, etc. Lots of money was made and lots of money was given away by various governmental entities. There's no accounting for it. Maybe you can be the person who does the study that, once and for all, justifies the wearing of masks during Covid. I only wore a mask when I was told to. But I am healthy and lucky and somehow avoided getting Covid. Or maybe I caught it but didn't know b/c I was so f'ing healthy. Who knows?
      - mjmsmith 6mo ago
        There have been over 100 million cases and over one million deaths in the US. Congratulations to you and your acquaintances for being extreme outliers.

by bjourne 6mo ago

100% right. What we (rather 80+ year old corrupt politicians) did to young people during covid was downright criminal. Almost two of their most important years destroyed.

phtrivier 6mo ago

Well, to be fair, it allowed some of the old people to survive more than two years, so... Young people should react by voting in people who will defend them. Instead, they joined the elderly un voting for Trump. Go figure.

tzs 6mo ago
Boomers only slightly favored Trump in 2024. Young voters (Gen Z) went Harris by 10 points. People in the first ~1/2 of middle age (Millennials) slightly favored Harris. It was the second ~1/2 of middle age (Gen X) that were pro Trump, by 6 points. Boomers had the best turnout. 31% of eligible voters but 40% of actual voters. Gen X was 28% of eligible voters and 26% of actual voters. Millennials were also 28% of eligible voters and were 25% of actual voters. Gen Z was 13% of eligible voters but only 9% of actual voters.
- phtrivier 6mo ago
  A group "slightly" favoring Harris, thanks to the electoral college, is a group that favors Trump :P Also, gen z favored Haris by ONLY 10 points ? As in 55/45 ? Isn't the stat usually more on the order of 60/40 (if not 65/35) for this age group ?
  - tzs 6mo ago
    But also due to the electoral college a small change in turnout in swing states can have a large effect. None of the swing states had higher than average Boomer concentration. Pennsylvania is right about average, and the rest were all lower. Gen Z went for Biden by 24 points, but the shifted right for 2024 so only went for Harris by 10. Millennials were similar, going for Biden by 19. Gen X favored Trump in 2020 by about about 6% and in 2024 by about 8%. Only Boomers have moved left. They favored Trump by 8% over Clinton, about 5% over Biden, but then only 1-2% over Harris.
    - phtrivier 6mo ago
      > Gen Z went for Biden by 24 points, but the shifted right for 2024 so only went for Harris by 10. Kinda confirms my point, no ? Sure, not a "majority" of Gen Z went for Trump. But such a shift has to mean _something_ was done wrong. That being said, I once again got my timing wrong - most of the restrictions of covid happened before Biden was elected, so it would not really make sense for them to blame it on Biden. I suppose inflation was enough for them...

watwut 6mo ago

Young people were more pro lockdowns then old people. And also, America did nit had two years of lockdowns.

chasd00 6mo ago
absolutely true. Masks + lockdown hobbies (baking etc) were virtue signaling and everywhere online.
- mjmsmith 6mo ago
  Many Americans were traumatized by being asked to wear a mask because they’re big angry babies. Many other Americans were traumatized by the discovery that they’re surrounded by big angry babies.
  - giardini 6mo ago
    I began watching for Covid cases early. I asked everyone I met: "Have you had Covid?" and "Do you know anyone who has had covid?" Six months into the pandemic only a single acquaintance claimed to have had the disease. A year later and there were only 3 such people. To this day I count no more than 5. I believe that the story of the pandemic has yet to be written. IMO the "powers that be" panicked and drove the population into mass hysteria. Or perhaps they used the pandemic to achieve political ends. There were definitely cases among certain populations: esp. elderly and immune-compromised in some cities. And there was a world of mismanagement: masks, ventilators, makeshift hospitals, quarantine facilities, etc. Lots of money was made and lots of money was given away by various governmental entities. There's no accounting for it. Maybe you can be the person who does the study that, once and for all, justifies the wearing of masks during Covid. I only wore a mask when I was told to. But I am healthy and lucky and somehow avoided getting Covid. Or maybe I caught it but didn't know b/c I was so f'ing healthy. Who knows?
    - mjmsmith 6mo ago
      There have been over 100 million cases and over one million deaths in the US. Congratulations to you and your acquaintances for being extreme outliers.