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So cities, counties, and states are supposed to build and maintain roads, keep them safe, and allow businesses like Uber that use these roads and services to do

So cities, counties, and states are supposed to build and maintain roads, keep them safe, and allow businesses like Uber that use these roads and services to do so without paying for them? How is that sustainable?

ajays 14y ago
Do UPS, FedEx, etc. pay separately for the privilege to use these roads? No. The money to pay for these facilities comes from gas taxes (mostly), sales taxes, income taxes, etc., all of which are paid by the Uber/Lyft/Sidecar people too. Their cars don't run on air, you know. In fact, Uber's limos use much more gas than the Priuses that the cabs drive, so in fact at least Uber people are paying more for the use of these roads.
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Zak 14y ago
Uber's drivers pay tax on the fuel they use and there's sales tax on the transaction itself. They are, in fact paying for the use of the roads. Why should there be a special additional tax on that particular type of business?
- glomph 14y ago
  Because everyone else in the business is still paying a special additional tax? If you disagree with that, you have to fight to change it for everyone. You don't just start competing without paying the same taxes as everyone else.
  - Zak 14y ago
    At first, that sounds more fair, but in practice it means a lot fewer people would start doing useful things.
  - danielweber 14y ago
    Earnest question: have any of Lyft et al tried to just say "okay, we'll pay the tax, give us the form to fill out"?
smsm42 14y ago
Businesses like Uber pay a lot for them. Corporate taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, business licenses, registration fees, etc. etc. Trying to justify every runaway regulation and fee with "oh, but we have to build the roads!" is only going to convince somebody who is too lazy to think about how many taxes business like Uber has to pay in any case. And if by the "services" you mean blocking competition and being the enforcement arm of the unions - then I could do without these "services", thank you very much.

ajays 14y ago

Do UPS, FedEx, etc. pay separately for the privilege to use these roads? No. The money to pay for these facilities comes from gas taxes (mostly), sales taxes, income taxes, etc., all of which are paid by the Uber/Lyft/Sidecar people too. Their cars don't run on air, you know. In fact, Uber's limos use much more gas than the Priuses that the cabs drive, so in fact at least Uber people are paying more for the use of these roads.

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Zak 14y ago

Uber's drivers pay tax on the fuel they use and there's sales tax on the transaction itself. They are, in fact paying for the use of the roads. Why should there be a special additional tax on that particular type of business?

glomph 14y ago
Because everyone else in the business is still paying a special additional tax? If you disagree with that, you have to fight to change it for everyone. You don't just start competing without paying the same taxes as everyone else.
- Zak 14y ago
  At first, that sounds more fair, but in practice it means a lot fewer people would start doing useful things.
- danielweber 14y ago
  Earnest question: have any of Lyft et al tried to just say "okay, we'll pay the tax, give us the form to fill out"?

smsm42 14y ago

Businesses like Uber pay a lot for them. Corporate taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, business licenses, registration fees, etc. etc. Trying to justify every runaway regulation and fee with "oh, but we have to build the roads!" is only going to convince somebody who is too lazy to think about how many taxes business like Uber has to pay in any case. And if by the "services" you mean blocking competition and being the enforcement arm of the unions - then I could do without these "services", thank you very much.