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Almost everything Musk says is either an outright lie or wildly optimistic to the point of lying. FSD has been a year or two away every year since 2015. There

Almost everything Musk says is either an outright lie or wildly optimistic to the point of lying. FSD has been a year or two away every year since 2015. There was going to be a voyage to Mars by 2024. Funding was secured to take Tesla private at $420 a share. He was going to save multiple trillions of dollars with DOGE. There would be "close to zero new cases" of Covid by April 2020. These are all off the top of my head, I'm sure we could list dozens more of these types of claims. Nobody should be surprised when Elon lies, the real question is why does the media or anyone else continue to give anything he says any air of legitimacy at all given his track record of claims vs reality? SpaceX (minus his Mars claims, which he has been clearly backtracking on for the past year or so) is the only one of his enterprises that isn't almost entirely hype and vibes based at this point, and from everything I've read it is because they uniquely understand how to mitigate the damage caused by his persistent manic overreach.

EA-3167 6mo ago
And of course there was the entire Thai Cave rescue, and the utter nuisance he made of himself.
- cma 6mo ago
  Before that he said he pay to filter everyone's water in Flint if it tested bad. I think he donated a few filtered water foubtains instead.
adityamwagh 6mo ago
And somehow he’s worth $655B. Pays to lie I guess haha.
- yifanl 6mo ago
  Lying is a competitive advantage, yes. Why do you think companies have marketing budgets?
  - voxadam 6mo ago
    Didn't Musk famously shutter Tesla's marketing department two years ago, nearly to the day?[1] It seems it's quite possible to lie effectively, repeatedly, and pervasively even without a marking department. Maybe Musk is just that good. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-22/tesla-cuts-marketing-team-in-reversal-of-musk-s-nascent-ad-push https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-22/tesla-cut...
    - stonogo 6mo ago
      They shuttered a marketing department -- the Content Growth team -- and Tesla still has marketing teams around the world.
    - Zigurd 6mo ago
      The army of YouTube stock pumpers didn't appear spontaneously. There's a budget for that.
FireBeyond 6mo ago
Let's not forget by 2023, all the Tesla owners making money as they sleep with their cars doubling as Robotaxis. Elon: "At that point it would be financially irresponsible not to own a Tesla".

EA-3167 6mo ago

And of course there was the entire Thai Cave rescue, and the utter nuisance he made of himself.

cma 6mo ago
Before that he said he pay to filter everyone's water in Flint if it tested bad. I think he donated a few filtered water foubtains instead.

adityamwagh 6mo ago

And somehow he’s worth $655B. Pays to lie I guess haha.

yifanl 6mo ago
Lying is a competitive advantage, yes. Why do you think companies have marketing budgets?
- voxadam 6mo ago
  Didn't Musk famously shutter Tesla's marketing department two years ago, nearly to the day?[1] It seems it's quite possible to lie effectively, repeatedly, and pervasively even without a marking department. Maybe Musk is just that good. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-22/tesla-cuts-marketing-team-in-reversal-of-musk-s-nascent-ad-push https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-22/tesla-cut...
  - stonogo 6mo ago
    They shuttered a marketing department -- the Content Growth team -- and Tesla still has marketing teams around the world.
  - Zigurd 6mo ago
    The army of YouTube stock pumpers didn't appear spontaneously. There's a budget for that.

FireBeyond 6mo ago

Let's not forget by 2023, all the Tesla owners making money as they sleep with their cars doubling as Robotaxis. Elon: "At that point it would be financially irresponsible not to own a Tesla".