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I wonder if this will be another bait and switch. Despite advertising that "all Teslas will come with the hardware for FSD", and accepting that Tesla was willin

I wonder if this will be another bait and switch. Despite advertising that "all Teslas will come with the hardware for FSD", and accepting that Tesla was willing to do hardware upgrades... ... they won't, unless you're paying for FSD. Misleading (from Tesla? Say it ain't so). They weren't advertising "All Teslas will come with or get the hardware for FSD, if you are paying for the service, that is." Might seem like a nit pick, but I can easily foresee a day where they say they're only doing upgrades for vehicles "newer than X".

protimewaster 6mo ago
They offer monthly subscriptions AFAIK, so I'm skeptical they'd upgrade for just any subscription. Otherwise, a person could buy one month, they have to upgrade the car, and then they never buy a second month.
- FireBeyond 6mo ago
  That's not the point, though. The car was sold, as advertised, as "having the hardware necessary for FSD". Sure, I get it, that they later realized it's not possible on older hardware, so they said they'd do the "right" (obligated) thing and upgrade that hardware. But many people tell tales of "Well, we won't upgrade your hardware unless you actually pay for FSD first", which is NOT what was sold. At that point you have a case against Tesla for a material difference. Having the hardware necessary for FSD is not in any way contingent on you having purchased or subscribed to the software.