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In the last ten years has qubes moved on to support more hardware? Every 4 years I would try to use it only to find it didn't support any of my hardware.

Aachen 6mo ago
We buy off the shelf laptops, not sure anyone ever checked that it can run Qubes specifically before trying to install it (I'm sure of at least one person: myself). Doesn't just about any x64 machine with hardware where drivers are available in standard kernels also work with Qubes? What have you bought that's not supported?
- fsflover 6mo ago
  Actually, it should work indeed, unless it lacks some Linux drivers or VT-d.
- 2ndorderthought 6mo ago
  .y attempts were 4 yrs ago and prior to that about 4 yrs prior. Home built PC's, random laptops, etc.
fsflover 6mo ago
Tested hardware can be found here https://qubes-os.org/hcl https://qubes-os.org/hcl. New hardware is being constantly added. If you plan to switch to Qubes, consider buying something from that list or, better, certified, or community-recommended hardware linked there.
orbital-decay 6mo ago
Most hardware (especially GPUs) is hard to virtualize in a secure manner, which is the entire point of Qubes. People who use it typically buy compatible hardware.
- fsflover 6mo ago
  I would expect that most Qubes users (including myself) do not virtualize GPUs and use the CPU to render graphics outside of dom0.
hrimfaxi 6mo ago
No problems on framework laptop that I've run into at least.
handedness 6mo ago
Qubes OS hardware support, while still far from perfect, is vastly better than it was ten years ago. Joanna Rutkowska's understandable preference for older kernels had its advantages, but the current team is much more likely to ship somewhat newer kernels and I've been surprised by what hardware 4.3 has worked well on. Beyond that, I'm currently running a kernel from late Feb/early Mar (6.19.5). Driver support can still be an issue, and a Wi-Fi card that doesn't play nice with Linux in general is doing to be no different on Qubes OS.

Aachen 6mo ago

We buy off the shelf laptops, not sure anyone ever checked that it can run Qubes specifically before trying to install it (I'm sure of at least one person: myself). Doesn't just about any x64 machine with hardware where drivers are available in standard kernels also work with Qubes? What have you bought that's not supported?

fsflover 6mo ago
Actually, it should work indeed, unless it lacks some Linux drivers or VT-d.
2ndorderthought 6mo ago
.y attempts were 4 yrs ago and prior to that about 4 yrs prior. Home built PC's, random laptops, etc.

fsflover 6mo ago

Tested hardware can be found here https://qubes-os.org/hcl https://qubes-os.org/hcl. New hardware is being constantly added. If you plan to switch to Qubes, consider buying something from that list or, better, certified, or community-recommended hardware linked there.

orbital-decay 6mo ago

Most hardware (especially GPUs) is hard to virtualize in a secure manner, which is the entire point of Qubes. People who use it typically buy compatible hardware.

fsflover 6mo ago
I would expect that most Qubes users (including myself) do not virtualize GPUs and use the CPU to render graphics outside of dom0.

hrimfaxi 6mo ago

No problems on framework laptop that I've run into at least.

handedness 6mo ago

Qubes OS hardware support, while still far from perfect, is vastly better than it was ten years ago. Joanna Rutkowska's understandable preference for older kernels had its advantages, but the current team is much more likely to ship somewhat newer kernels and I've been surprised by what hardware 4.3 has worked well on. Beyond that, I'm currently running a kernel from late Feb/early Mar (6.19.5). Driver support can still be an issue, and a Wi-Fi card that doesn't play nice with Linux in general is doing to be no different on Qubes OS.