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Obama inherited a couple of wars and was famously dovish on Russia. He made a deal with Iran. His rhetoric was always diplomatic. In the context of American pre
by cosmicgadget 6mo ago
Obama inherited a couple of wars and was famously dovish on Russia. He made a deal with Iran. His rhetoric was always diplomatic. In the context of American presidents or historical empires he was absolutely no war monger.
- nephihaha 6mo agoObama's government dropped at least 20,000 bombs on other countries, and mounted several special operations in Africa that were not wisely publicised. His government killed many people, but because they were foreigners, they don't count in the US press. That is war mongering. Domestically, his handling of the Standing Rock Native American protests was also questionable, and he allowed the police and military to harass them. He put a pause on it just before the election, and naturally it renewed after the election when a new president came in. He isn't the saint some people think he is.
- cosmicgadget 6mo agoDidn't say he was a saint but limited operations, continuing occupations he did not initiate, and domestic protest responses aren't war mongering - both by an ordinary read of the term and considered against his peers.
- nephihaha 6mo agoThe record says otherwise. People like to give Obama a free pass. He is probably the best public speaker of all 21st century POTUSes, but he too was a war monger. Trump is an odd one. In his first term, he was pretty good in terms of his war record. In recent times he has completely undone that.
- cosmicgadget 6mo agoWhich wars did Obama start? I am not asking for drone strikes, I am asking for wars. How many ground troops? How long?
- nephihaha 6mo agoObama bankrolled wars in much of the Middle East including Syria and Libya. Europe had to deal with the consequences such as large waves of refugees and the growth of Islamic extremism in the region. He was the first president to order a drone strike against US citizens (albeit outside the USA).
- cosmicgadget 6mo agoYou seem to be explaining why you are mad at Obama rather than answering my questions. For example, drone striking a citizen of your own country is pretty much the opposite of warmongering.