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Thanks! 1. I won't be using NixOS so that point is moot to me. 2. Reliable sandbox I can get using Apple Containers. I won't argue that the Linux experience i

Thanks! 1. I won't be using NixOS so that point is moot to me. 2. Reliable sandbox I can get using Apple Containers. I won't argue that the Linux experience is better, because it is. Alone it wouldn't be a reason for me to switch but it does count towards it. 3. Fair enough, I haven't had that issue on the Mac but that may just be because I'm working with other kinds of tech or I have the things I need installed in a different way. 4. Same as 2, really - unless I misunderstood you. I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I have been primarily a Mac user for longer than I care to admit and lately macOS and the ecossystem have been growing more hostile to me. I've been on the lookout for a Linux laptop that wouldn't feel like much of a downgrade and the Framework 13 might be it so I'm trying to get as much information as I can before I commit (especially money) to the switch.

pshirshov 6mo ago
> apple containers Virtual machines. I can't ask claude to figure out an issue on the hw host w/o falling back to per-action confirmations or giving it full unconditional access. When everything runs on one host I can organize controllable sandbox escapes for Claude and let it work in huge batches with minimal attention. > won't be using Well, that's your choice to avoid efficient agentic workflows > misunderstood There are no containers on mac, there are VMs hosting containers and subtractive sandbox filtering syscalls. > get as much FW 13 is great, FW 16 is a disaster.
- cassianoleal 6mo ago
  > I can't ask claude to figure out an issue on the hw host w/o falling back to per-action confirmations or giving it full unconditional access. Yeah that seems to confirm my suspicion that we have very different use cases. :) > I can't ask claude to figure out an issue on the hw host w/o falling back to per-action confirmations or giving it full unconditional access. Doesn't help me if the agent is efficient but I'm not. :D > There are no containers on mac, there are VMs hosting containers and subtractive sandbox filtering syscalls. I understand the tech. It serves the purpose I need from it. > FW 13 is great, FW 16 is a disaster. Thanks! I did take a quick peek at the 16 but I find it too big anyway.
- jim33442 6mo ago
  Why do you need agents patching your kernel to enable efficient agentic workflows? Are those agents working on building a kernel? If they're just building some web backend or whatever, I don't see why any of this is needed.
jim33442 6mo ago
I don't get #3 because all those CLIs work on Mac too. You're only forced to use Xcode if you're doing certain Apple platform dev, which does suck, but is there a better Linux-only alternative for that?

pshirshov 6mo ago

> apple containers Virtual machines. I can't ask claude to figure out an issue on the hw host w/o falling back to per-action confirmations or giving it full unconditional access. When everything runs on one host I can organize controllable sandbox escapes for Claude and let it work in huge batches with minimal attention. > won't be using Well, that's your choice to avoid efficient agentic workflows > misunderstood There are no containers on mac, there are VMs hosting containers and subtractive sandbox filtering syscalls. > get as much FW 13 is great, FW 16 is a disaster.

cassianoleal 6mo ago
> I can't ask claude to figure out an issue on the hw host w/o falling back to per-action confirmations or giving it full unconditional access. Yeah that seems to confirm my suspicion that we have very different use cases. :) > I can't ask claude to figure out an issue on the hw host w/o falling back to per-action confirmations or giving it full unconditional access. Doesn't help me if the agent is efficient but I'm not. :D > There are no containers on mac, there are VMs hosting containers and subtractive sandbox filtering syscalls. I understand the tech. It serves the purpose I need from it. > FW 13 is great, FW 16 is a disaster. Thanks! I did take a quick peek at the 16 but I find it too big anyway.
jim33442 6mo ago
Why do you need agents patching your kernel to enable efficient agentic workflows? Are those agents working on building a kernel? If they're just building some web backend or whatever, I don't see why any of this is needed.

jim33442 6mo ago

I don't get #3 because all those CLIs work on Mac too. You're only forced to use Xcode if you're doing certain Apple platform dev, which does suck, but is there a better Linux-only alternative for that?