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In case your simple biology marks you as male, have you ever looked down your chest and noticed those two nipples? Yes, biology and thus sex and gender is very

In case your simple biology marks you as male, have you ever looked down your chest and noticed those two nipples? Yes, biology and thus sex and gender is very messy and complicated. But for the beginning, at first, you should only try to comprehend the fact that men can even -- against gods perfect design -- produce milk. I am not a single bit sorry about shaking your overly simplistic world. Maybe, someday you might even comprehend the harm, your ignorance causes. How could i not call the behavior of pretending biology is simple while going through life with the f'ing counter indication on your body "ignorant". Maybe you are a better candidate for therapy than all those who do not conform to your simplistic norms.

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slli 6mo ago
Yet humans, like all mammals and indeed all gonochoric species, have the two sexes - i.e. two halves of a system of anisogamous sexual reproduction - divided across two classes of individual.
- Moomoomoo309 6mo ago
  That is not an accurate description of how the human sex hormones' traits are embodied, intersex people exist, sex chromosome disorders exist, and conveniently ignoring those people makes the model simpler but denies a more complex underlying truth.
  - appreciatorBus 6mo ago
    All biological categories are fuzzy around the edges. The existence of small numbers of people on those edges with truly physical intersex conditions in no way invalidates the usefulness of the categories for science, medicine, and our ability to protect the physically weaker of the two. https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/why-there-are-exactly-two-sexes https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/why-there-are-exactly-tw... Wear whatever kind of clothes you like, and sleep with whoever will have you, but stop demanding the world to see you as something you aren’t.
    - throwawayqqq11 6mo ago
      And here comes your simplicity again ... Yes, the edges are fuzzy but biology and sociology, the 2 domains defining gender, are not one dimensional. There are many ways an individual could step out of the majority cohort with different body, brain or social perception traits. There are many gender determining factors. Imagine a empathetic, low testosterone and muscle structure male that loves to be a kindergartener. Lets say he develops homosexual tendencies in his 30s and tries to late transition in his 40s. The role he played in society never changed, "he" has always been the same feminine guy caring for children but somewhere in is life, your perception of him changed. At what stage in his life would he fall out or into your category of "protecting of the weak"? What if the same person transotions before puberty and is indistinguishable from a 'real' woman from the outside? I could keep toying with you by using your simplicity against you, since there are fuzzy edges everywhere. > stop demanding the world to see you as something you aren’t. What if its you seeing someone as something they arent? If you dont like that transwomen want to be called and regarded as "real" women, just remind yourself about the complexity of what a "real" women is and that this person primarily just wants to fit in the role and is satisfied with that social, and not biological, definition of a "real" women. In essence, the entire topic is about broad category mismatches, human dignity and respect and cognitive biases around out groups and disgust. And no matter how long you keep stare on ot, your dick wont give the full picture.
      - appreciatorBus 6mo ago
        None of that has anything to do with there being two sexes. There can be two sexes, even if members of those two sexes chose among an infinite variety of ways to express themselves sexually, even if members of those two sexes, sometimes choose to modify their bodies to resemble the opposite sex that they are. It doesn’t change the underlying reality of our species having two immutable sexes. Pointing of the reality of biological sex does not imply disgust, hatred or even dislike. It is possible to acknowledge that there are only two biological sexes, while also believing that basic human rights include the right to wear atypical clothing, and the right to body modification, the right to sleep with whoever will have you. These are the rights we can all have and share. They are not in conflict. > empathetic, low testosterone and muscle structure male that loves to be a kindergartener I think you are confusing the concept of a biological category, and the concept of a cultural stereotype. Everyone knows that secondary sex characteristics such as height, muscle structure, etc normally distributed (i.e. on a Bell curve) and that the two overlap. The fact that the two overlap does not change the fact that there are two curves, nor does it imply that members of either curve have any requirement to dress or act a certain way. That said, an adult who “loves to be a kindergartener” is not an indicator of good mental health. > want to be called and regarded as "real" women … however, getting what you want is not a human right. I want to be called and regarded as a real billionaire. That not everyone complies with my desire is not a violation of my human rights. > I could keep toying with you lol that’s not what’s happening here

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slli 6mo ago

Yet humans, like all mammals and indeed all gonochoric species, have the two sexes - i.e. two halves of a system of anisogamous sexual reproduction - divided across two classes of individual.

Moomoomoo309 6mo ago
That is not an accurate description of how the human sex hormones' traits are embodied, intersex people exist, sex chromosome disorders exist, and conveniently ignoring those people makes the model simpler but denies a more complex underlying truth.
- appreciatorBus 6mo ago
  All biological categories are fuzzy around the edges. The existence of small numbers of people on those edges with truly physical intersex conditions in no way invalidates the usefulness of the categories for science, medicine, and our ability to protect the physically weaker of the two. https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/why-there-are-exactly-two-sexes https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/why-there-are-exactly-tw... Wear whatever kind of clothes you like, and sleep with whoever will have you, but stop demanding the world to see you as something you aren’t.
  - throwawayqqq11 6mo ago
    And here comes your simplicity again ... Yes, the edges are fuzzy but biology and sociology, the 2 domains defining gender, are not one dimensional. There are many ways an individual could step out of the majority cohort with different body, brain or social perception traits. There are many gender determining factors. Imagine a empathetic, low testosterone and muscle structure male that loves to be a kindergartener. Lets say he develops homosexual tendencies in his 30s and tries to late transition in his 40s. The role he played in society never changed, "he" has always been the same feminine guy caring for children but somewhere in is life, your perception of him changed. At what stage in his life would he fall out or into your category of "protecting of the weak"? What if the same person transotions before puberty and is indistinguishable from a 'real' woman from the outside? I could keep toying with you by using your simplicity against you, since there are fuzzy edges everywhere. > stop demanding the world to see you as something you aren’t. What if its you seeing someone as something they arent? If you dont like that transwomen want to be called and regarded as "real" women, just remind yourself about the complexity of what a "real" women is and that this person primarily just wants to fit in the role and is satisfied with that social, and not biological, definition of a "real" women. In essence, the entire topic is about broad category mismatches, human dignity and respect and cognitive biases around out groups and disgust. And no matter how long you keep stare on ot, your dick wont give the full picture.
    - appreciatorBus 6mo ago
      None of that has anything to do with there being two sexes. There can be two sexes, even if members of those two sexes chose among an infinite variety of ways to express themselves sexually, even if members of those two sexes, sometimes choose to modify their bodies to resemble the opposite sex that they are. It doesn’t change the underlying reality of our species having two immutable sexes. Pointing of the reality of biological sex does not imply disgust, hatred or even dislike. It is possible to acknowledge that there are only two biological sexes, while also believing that basic human rights include the right to wear atypical clothing, and the right to body modification, the right to sleep with whoever will have you. These are the rights we can all have and share. They are not in conflict. > empathetic, low testosterone and muscle structure male that loves to be a kindergartener I think you are confusing the concept of a biological category, and the concept of a cultural stereotype. Everyone knows that secondary sex characteristics such as height, muscle structure, etc normally distributed (i.e. on a Bell curve) and that the two overlap. The fact that the two overlap does not change the fact that there are two curves, nor does it imply that members of either curve have any requirement to dress or act a certain way. That said, an adult who “loves to be a kindergartener” is not an indicator of good mental health. > want to be called and regarded as "real" women … however, getting what you want is not a human right. I want to be called and regarded as a real billionaire. That not everyone complies with my desire is not a violation of my human rights. > I could keep toying with you lol that’s not what’s happening here