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If you work for meta you shouldn't have a problem with invading the privacy of others. Of course this is not ok, but you should really quit your job if you hav

If you work for meta you shouldn't have a problem with invading the privacy of others. Of course this is not ok, but you should really quit your job if you have ethical or moral problems with that.

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newshackr 6mo ago
There isn't exactly a surplus of jobs today. While some may have this option, many do not.
- spacechild1 6mo ago
  At this point, Meta's opinion on privacy has been widely known for decades. Working for Meta is a personal choice. There is no excuse.
  - physhster 6mo ago
    ^ this! Ever since the Cambridge Analytica scandal, people who decide to work there make the statement that they are ok with it. Same with Palantir, X, Grok, Tesla etc
    - spacechild1 6mo ago
      Yes. It's worth pointing out that the Cambridge Analytica scandal was in 2016 - that's 10 years ago! At that point, FB resp. Zuckerberg already had a bad reputation.
- none2585 6mo ago
  Eh - if you have Meta on your resume it's not that tough out there right now.
  - dccoolgai 6mo ago
    TBH if I see "late Meta" or "post-Musk Twitter/X" on a resume it gets filed as "low morals / low trust".
    - none2585 6mo ago
      I understand that but trust me plenty of jobs, especially at other larger shops, do not do that.
- Planktonne 6mo ago
  That argument doesn't really fly for some of the most highly paid people in the world with at least one really big name on their CVs. Everyone working at Meta has more options than almost anyone else.
  - hirako2000 6mo ago
    That's a good point. The crux is privacy or half your salary.
  - the_snooze 6mo ago
    Exactly, these are highly-paid professionals with very broadly applicable skills. They have the means to uphold professional values.
- ForHackernews 6mo ago
  Anyone working for Meta could have chosen to work elsewhere. You have other options (that might not pay $350 grand, but hey, that's the price of your soul)
- glimshe 6mo ago
  Poor Meta employees. They are victims of the oppressive job market and are left no other option than to work for 100s of thousands of dollars per year in well-lit and comfortable offices with free food and premium healthcare.
- everdrive 6mo ago
  Anyone who could get a job at meta has other options, I think this is why people are so confident criticizing. Outside of the obvious (and correct!) hypocrisy angle, I think this would be an altogether different issue if it were for grocery store workers, retail employees, etc. (or for a much more real example, Amazon warehouse workers) Those groups really might not have other real options.
- razingeden 6mo ago
  But I was only following orders!
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fhennig 6mo ago
Of course quitting can be in the cards, but I'd much rather see a successful pushback from meta employees against this new policy; maybe this could be a good cause to form a union over.
NikolaosC 6mo ago
Exactly. Meta spent 15 years mining user data and now mines its own staff to build the agents that'll replace them. If you're still there complaining about privacy, you're not the victim rahter the training set
Frieren 6mo ago
> you should really quit your job Stop blaming the working class. We need jobs to pay our bills. Regulate capital, force them to follow the law, force them to be ethical, and use all the force of the state for doing so. To blame employees for the capital behavior is absurd and solves nothing. Put the high up decision makers in prison. Punish the real criminals and we will get back our privacy and our rights.
- ramon156 6mo ago
  Stop using bills as an excuse to be on the wrong side of history. Were the nazi soldiers innocent for gassing jews? Or were they also just "following the law"? Being ethical is hard, but it's not an excuse. Yes, I judge people that work for FAANG, I judge colleagues for extensively rely on LLMs, and Big Corps for that matter. > Regulate capital How? Oh, right, by not using these products or working for the mentioned companies. It's so easy to shift blame on other's and mark it as "not my problem lol"
  - Frieren 6mo ago
    > It's so easy to shift blame on other's and mark it as "not my problem lol" I don't say that it is "not my problem". It is. That is why Facebook is guilty and high level decision makers should be held accountable by the law. We need to make it happen. Until CEOs and the like are in prison we are failing society.
- michaelt 6mo ago
  Several reports say even a mid-ranked engineer at Meta can earn $200k in salary and another $100k in stock and bonus, every year. And that's not some rare, mega-senior E8 architect either. Is there any point where a person stops being working class? Can I be chauffeur-driven to the opera in my gold-plated Lamborghini and still call myself working class?
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If you work for meta you shouldn't have a problem with invading the privacy of others. Of course this is not ok, but you should really quit your job if you have ethical or moral problems with that.

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newshackr 6mo ago

There isn't exactly a surplus of jobs today. While some may have this option, many do not.

spacechild1 6mo ago
At this point, Meta's opinion on privacy has been widely known for decades. Working for Meta is a personal choice. There is no excuse.
- physhster 6mo ago
  ^ this! Ever since the Cambridge Analytica scandal, people who decide to work there make the statement that they are ok with it. Same with Palantir, X, Grok, Tesla etc
  - spacechild1 6mo ago
    Yes. It's worth pointing out that the Cambridge Analytica scandal was in 2016 - that's 10 years ago! At that point, FB resp. Zuckerberg already had a bad reputation.
none2585 6mo ago
Eh - if you have Meta on your resume it's not that tough out there right now.
- dccoolgai 6mo ago
  TBH if I see "late Meta" or "post-Musk Twitter/X" on a resume it gets filed as "low morals / low trust".
  - none2585 6mo ago
    I understand that but trust me plenty of jobs, especially at other larger shops, do not do that.
Planktonne 6mo ago
That argument doesn't really fly for some of the most highly paid people in the world with at least one really big name on their CVs. Everyone working at Meta has more options than almost anyone else.
- hirako2000 6mo ago
  That's a good point. The crux is privacy or half your salary.
- the_snooze 6mo ago
  Exactly, these are highly-paid professionals with very broadly applicable skills. They have the means to uphold professional values.
ForHackernews 6mo ago
Anyone working for Meta could have chosen to work elsewhere. You have other options (that might not pay $350 grand, but hey, that's the price of your soul)
glimshe 6mo ago
Poor Meta employees. They are victims of the oppressive job market and are left no other option than to work for 100s of thousands of dollars per year in well-lit and comfortable offices with free food and premium healthcare.
everdrive 6mo ago
Anyone who could get a job at meta has other options, I think this is why people are so confident criticizing. Outside of the obvious (and correct!) hypocrisy angle, I think this would be an altogether different issue if it were for grocery store workers, retail employees, etc. (or for a much more real example, Amazon warehouse workers) Those groups really might not have other real options.
razingeden 6mo ago
But I was only following orders!

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fhennig 6mo ago

Of course quitting can be in the cards, but I'd much rather see a successful pushback from meta employees against this new policy; maybe this could be a good cause to form a union over.

NikolaosC 6mo ago

Exactly. Meta spent 15 years mining user data and now mines its own staff to build the agents that'll replace them. If you're still there complaining about privacy, you're not the victim rahter the training set

Frieren 6mo ago

> you should really quit your job Stop blaming the working class. We need jobs to pay our bills. Regulate capital, force them to follow the law, force them to be ethical, and use all the force of the state for doing so. To blame employees for the capital behavior is absurd and solves nothing. Put the high up decision makers in prison. Punish the real criminals and we will get back our privacy and our rights.

ramon156 6mo ago
Stop using bills as an excuse to be on the wrong side of history. Were the nazi soldiers innocent for gassing jews? Or were they also just "following the law"? Being ethical is hard, but it's not an excuse. Yes, I judge people that work for FAANG, I judge colleagues for extensively rely on LLMs, and Big Corps for that matter. > Regulate capital How? Oh, right, by not using these products or working for the mentioned companies. It's so easy to shift blame on other's and mark it as "not my problem lol"
- Frieren 6mo ago
  > It's so easy to shift blame on other's and mark it as "not my problem lol" I don't say that it is "not my problem". It is. That is why Facebook is guilty and high level decision makers should be held accountable by the law. We need to make it happen. Until CEOs and the like are in prison we are failing society.
michaelt 6mo ago
Several reports say even a mid-ranked engineer at Meta can earn $200k in salary and another $100k in stock and bonus, every year. And that's not some rare, mega-senior E8 architect either. Is there any point where a person stops being working class? Can I be chauffeur-driven to the opera in my gold-plated Lamborghini and still call myself working class?
- tardedmeme 6mo ago
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