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Their revenue and growth justified it. Plus, for xAI that could be the only way to get a SOTA coding model they want so hard.

singularity2001 6mo ago
I thought cursor became mostly obsolete with Claude Code and Codex TUIs?
- freedomben 6mo ago
  That matches my anecdatal experience with a couple dozen devs. Many wnet hard on the Cursor train and have mostly gotten off now with CC and Codex TUIs available
- user34283 6mo ago
  Are TUIs not yesterday’s hot thing? The way I work now in the Codex desktop app is that I spin up 3-5 conversations which work in their dedicated git worktree. So while the agent works and runs the test suite I can come back to other conversations to address blockers or do verification. Important is that I can see which conversation has an update and getting desktop notifications. Maybe I could set this up with tabs in the Terminal, but it does not sound like the best UX.
  - unknownx113 6mo ago
    That's probably more a personal preference than objective measurement. A lot of people already spent most of their dev time in the terminal, so for someone like myself that uses neovim claude code or codex cli are much easier than using the GUIs.
- dmix 6mo ago
  The solution is use both. They both have their usecases. Cursor's autocomplete and quickly highlight a few lines -> throw into context, plus it's got a very good file index/API (which burns much less tokens than Claude's grep'ing) and whatever else they are doing underneath to optimize it for coding. Claude is still gold standard if you're not in an IDE though.
  - kid64 6mo ago
    Grep'ing doesn't use tokens, it uses grep.
    - jmalicki 6mo ago
      Claude has to use more tokens to read the grep output.
    - dmix 6mo ago
      Reading files is always the biggest token burning when coding. If it can't find stuff quickly or has to use less and head to trim it before finding it, then you're just wasting context window Cursor both lets you highlight specific lines multiple times per chat and is much quicker at finding stuff.
- jjav 6mo ago
  > I thought cursor became mostly obsolete with Claude Code and Codex TUIs? I wouldn't think so. At work I have both cursor and claude code and while I use both, cursor is by far the most pleasant to use. If I had to give one up, I'd let claude go.

singularity2001 6mo ago

I thought cursor became mostly obsolete with Claude Code and Codex TUIs?

freedomben 6mo ago
That matches my anecdatal experience with a couple dozen devs. Many wnet hard on the Cursor train and have mostly gotten off now with CC and Codex TUIs available
user34283 6mo ago
Are TUIs not yesterday’s hot thing? The way I work now in the Codex desktop app is that I spin up 3-5 conversations which work in their dedicated git worktree. So while the agent works and runs the test suite I can come back to other conversations to address blockers or do verification. Important is that I can see which conversation has an update and getting desktop notifications. Maybe I could set this up with tabs in the Terminal, but it does not sound like the best UX.
- unknownx113 6mo ago
  That's probably more a personal preference than objective measurement. A lot of people already spent most of their dev time in the terminal, so for someone like myself that uses neovim claude code or codex cli are much easier than using the GUIs.
dmix 6mo ago
The solution is use both. They both have their usecases. Cursor's autocomplete and quickly highlight a few lines -> throw into context, plus it's got a very good file index/API (which burns much less tokens than Claude's grep'ing) and whatever else they are doing underneath to optimize it for coding. Claude is still gold standard if you're not in an IDE though.
- kid64 6mo ago
  Grep'ing doesn't use tokens, it uses grep.
  - jmalicki 6mo ago
    Claude has to use more tokens to read the grep output.
  - dmix 6mo ago
    Reading files is always the biggest token burning when coding. If it can't find stuff quickly or has to use less and head to trim it before finding it, then you're just wasting context window Cursor both lets you highlight specific lines multiple times per chat and is much quicker at finding stuff.
jjav 6mo ago
> I thought cursor became mostly obsolete with Claude Code and Codex TUIs? I wouldn't think so. At work I have both cursor and claude code and while I use both, cursor is by far the most pleasant to use. If I had to give one up, I'd let claude go.