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San Francisco is notoriously the most anti-new-housing city in the country.

bombcar 5mo ago
Frisco (come at me) rent and housing prices have way more to do with the valuation of the latest startup darling than with much else.
- xtiansimon 5mo ago
  SF (only acceptable abbreviation) is 7x7 miles square surrounded by water on three sides—the only way to grow is up, right after you knock down the 100 yro Victorian homes and historic buildings, and gut the neighborhood charms. This from someone who once paid rent 1300/mo for a two bedroom in Potrero Hill.
  - littlexsparkee 5mo ago
    Nah, Frisco has a long history of use https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/rappers-poets-activists-say-frisco-17441731.php https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/rappers-poets-activists... as does 'the City'.
    - xtiansimon 5mo ago
      hehe. Frisco seems derisive to me. And The City? All major cities can be called that when in their vicinity (NYC?). But SF? It's right there on the Giant's caps!
      - bombcar 5mo ago
        What are you talking about? It's clearly Cisco - the bridge is right there in the logo! SF was founded by a joint effort between Cisco and Salesforce, that's why it's called Cisco and SF, right?
  - klooney 5mo ago
    Just turn SOMA into Hong Kong
    - bombcar 5mo ago
      At the density of Kowloon Walled City SOMA could house 2.2 million! And we could probably do it comfortably with what we've spent on AI datacenters.
  - ProfessorLayton 5mo ago
    >right after you knock down the 100 yro Victorian homes and historic buildings BS, there's ~400K housing units in SF, and only ~10k of those would be considered victorian. These units couldn't (And shouldn't!) be destroyed for new housing because they're protected, and that's not what NIMBY's or YIMBY's are arguing about anyway since almost everyone loves victorian homes. More than half of the city's housing was built after 1940, mostly on the west side, and it's where NIMBYism is at its worst. There's little reason someone or even a developer shouldn't be able to build up there.
    - xtiansimon 5mo ago
      > “west side” Build around Golden Gate Park just like NYC’s Central Park! Great idea.
      - ProfessorLayton 5mo ago
        Ah yes, Golden Gate Park, famously the only option for building new housing on the west side of SF!

Frisco (come at me) rent and housing prices have way more to do with the valuation of the latest startup darling than with much else.

xtiansimon 5mo ago
SF (only acceptable abbreviation) is 7x7 miles square surrounded by water on three sides—the only way to grow is up, right after you knock down the 100 yro Victorian homes and historic buildings, and gut the neighborhood charms. This from someone who once paid rent 1300/mo for a two bedroom in Potrero Hill.
- littlexsparkee 5mo ago
  Nah, Frisco has a long history of use https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/rappers-poets-activists-say-frisco-17441731.php https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/rappers-poets-activists... as does 'the City'.
  - xtiansimon 5mo ago
    hehe. Frisco seems derisive to me. And The City? All major cities can be called that when in their vicinity (NYC?). But SF? It's right there on the Giant's caps!
    - bombcar 5mo ago
      What are you talking about? It's clearly Cisco - the bridge is right there in the logo! SF was founded by a joint effort between Cisco and Salesforce, that's why it's called Cisco and SF, right?
- klooney 5mo ago
  Just turn SOMA into Hong Kong
  - bombcar 5mo ago
    At the density of Kowloon Walled City SOMA could house 2.2 million! And we could probably do it comfortably with what we've spent on AI datacenters.
- ProfessorLayton 5mo ago
  >right after you knock down the 100 yro Victorian homes and historic buildings BS, there's ~400K housing units in SF, and only ~10k of those would be considered victorian. These units couldn't (And shouldn't!) be destroyed for new housing because they're protected, and that's not what NIMBY's or YIMBY's are arguing about anyway since almost everyone loves victorian homes. More than half of the city's housing was built after 1940, mostly on the west side, and it's where NIMBYism is at its worst. There's little reason someone or even a developer shouldn't be able to build up there.
  - xtiansimon 5mo ago
    > “west side” Build around Golden Gate Park just like NYC’s Central Park! Great idea.
    - ProfessorLayton 5mo ago
      Ah yes, Golden Gate Park, famously the only option for building new housing on the west side of SF!