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By Trump's personalist DoJ. Presuming good faith on the part of Trump admin feds is a journalistic mistake.

by bediger4000 6mo ago

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- defrost 6mo ago
  > what kind of mindless ideologue thinks this was just a whim for giggles? Likely not a single one - it's been starkly clear for more than a year that the current US Federal DoJ is being wielded not on a whim for shits and giggles but for revenge and manipulation.
  - rationalist 6mo ago
    Then either they shouldn't be laundering money, or we should repeal that law.
    - cosmicgadget 6mo ago
      Oh did we already get a guilty verdict?
    - defrost 6mo ago
      Tangential to the deeper and more problematic issue with the recent DoJ, repeated malicious prosecutions at a scale not seen before.
      - rationalist 6mo ago
        I don't like malicious prosecutions. And nothing prevents the other side once the pendulum swings back in the other direction, from doing the same as long as there are enough laws on the books that this is true: "Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."
    - SV_BubbleTime 6mo ago
      I mean, yeah maybe. The other hand put yourself in their position. I mean me alone… the number of times I’ve woken up and found myself committing wire fraud and money laundering in order to pay KKK and neo Nazi groups is like geez, Tuesday already?
- Vegenoid 6mo ago
  > They are indicted in federal court… what kind of mindless ideologue thinks this was just a whim for giggles? It is well-known that the bar for securing an indictment is very low. There is a famous quote about it: "Any good prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich." It too is well-known that the Trump administration is exerting great pressure on the DOJ to charge political opponents with crimes. The most public of these was when the DOJ twice failed to secure an indictment against Letitia James, following pressure from Trump and the firing of DOJ prosecutors who resisted pursuing the case against James. This was notable because indictments are so easy to get. The current acting Attorney General, Todd Blanche, was asked about a message Trump sent to the previous AG (Bondi), where Trump wrote ""What about Comey, Adam 'Shifty' Schiff, Leticia??? ... They impeached me twice, and indicted me (5 times!), OVER NOTHING. JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!!". Blanche stated ""That type of communication from President Trump should make every American happy". The SPLC has been highly critical of Trump for years, and been a legal thorn in his side. It's always been the case that a case being brought shouldn't be taken as any implication of guilt, and it is especially true in this case. The evidence, or lack thereof, will be revealed in court in due time.
- cosmicgadget 6mo ago
  > They are indicted in federal court… what kind of mindless ideologue thinks this was just a whim for giggles? Have you been following the DOJ at all? A malicious prosecution is 100% on brand.

By Trump's personalist DoJ. Presuming good faith on the part of Trump admin feds is a journalistic mistake.

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defrost 6mo ago
> what kind of mindless ideologue thinks this was just a whim for giggles? Likely not a single one - it's been starkly clear for more than a year that the current US Federal DoJ is being wielded not on a whim for shits and giggles but for revenge and manipulation.
- rationalist 6mo ago
  Then either they shouldn't be laundering money, or we should repeal that law.
  - cosmicgadget 6mo ago
    Oh did we already get a guilty verdict?
  - defrost 6mo ago
    Tangential to the deeper and more problematic issue with the recent DoJ, repeated malicious prosecutions at a scale not seen before.
    - rationalist 6mo ago
      I don't like malicious prosecutions. And nothing prevents the other side once the pendulum swings back in the other direction, from doing the same as long as there are enough laws on the books that this is true: "Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."
  - SV_BubbleTime 6mo ago
    I mean, yeah maybe. The other hand put yourself in their position. I mean me alone… the number of times I’ve woken up and found myself committing wire fraud and money laundering in order to pay KKK and neo Nazi groups is like geez, Tuesday already?
Vegenoid 6mo ago
> They are indicted in federal court… what kind of mindless ideologue thinks this was just a whim for giggles? It is well-known that the bar for securing an indictment is very low. There is a famous quote about it: "Any good prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich." It too is well-known that the Trump administration is exerting great pressure on the DOJ to charge political opponents with crimes. The most public of these was when the DOJ twice failed to secure an indictment against Letitia James, following pressure from Trump and the firing of DOJ prosecutors who resisted pursuing the case against James. This was notable because indictments are so easy to get. The current acting Attorney General, Todd Blanche, was asked about a message Trump sent to the previous AG (Bondi), where Trump wrote ""What about Comey, Adam 'Shifty' Schiff, Leticia??? ... They impeached me twice, and indicted me (5 times!), OVER NOTHING. JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!!". Blanche stated ""That type of communication from President Trump should make every American happy". The SPLC has been highly critical of Trump for years, and been a legal thorn in his side. It's always been the case that a case being brought shouldn't be taken as any implication of guilt, and it is especially true in this case. The evidence, or lack thereof, will be revealed in court in due time.
cosmicgadget 6mo ago
> They are indicted in federal court… what kind of mindless ideologue thinks this was just a whim for giggles? Have you been following the DOJ at all? A malicious prosecution is 100% on brand.