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Cursor is still the best coding environment and hardness. It's actually not really close. They are so good that they actually made Gemini usable. The problem i

Cursor is still the best coding environment and hardness. It's actually not really close. They are so good that they actually made Gemini usable. The problem is they can't compete with Anthropic and OpenAI because they can't sell Opus and GPT at a discount to subscribers like OpenAI and Anthropic do with their subscriptions. So they either need to build a competing model or slowly die.

tootie 6mo ago
Bet they will become tied to grok pretty soon.
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muyuu 6mo ago
They seemed to be doing fine with Kimi distillation. Not speaking from experience though, I prefer to use my editor.
goolz 6mo ago
I personally disagree on the first point. Claude code in a terminal with vim is much nicer. I just don’t see the need for the bloat of an IDE when the CLI versions work so damn well now.
- bakies 6mo ago
  And Claude can use CLI too. It's the perfect environment for coding agents.
- impulser_ 6mo ago
  They have Cursor CLI. Cursor is essentially all the Claude Code products but without the horrible bugs of Claude Code products. You can transfer from CLI to web and it actually works.
dzhiurgis 6mo ago
> They are so good that they actually made Gemini usable I think Gemini is best model out there, and it's not Cursor who you should praise. I use it with jetbrains junie. Vastly cheaper than claude, faster, produces better quality code, actually listens to your instructions, more accurate. I'm sure claude code cli has some cli magic that I'm missing out on, but having everything just work in a nice IDE (and llm to actually understand your symbol table) is like magic.
- smartbit 6mo ago
  Are you using Gemini 3.1 Pro? Subscription or paying for the tokens?
  - dzhiurgis 6mo ago
    Tried 3.1 pro preview today a little bit, definitely blowing thru credits quicker, not sure about being better quality, but achieved all tasks perfectly. IDK how Junie does it, but I spend less than $50 USD per month and I'm on it 30 hours per week.
sippeangelo 6mo ago
That's why I'm so puzzled to why Composer doesn't work better when they have the ability to train it from scratch for their agent harness! Yet it still fails to apply edits, gets confused why it can't call some commands in its sandbox, the list goes on...

tootie 6mo ago

Bet they will become tied to grok pretty soon.

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muyuu 6mo ago

They seemed to be doing fine with Kimi distillation. Not speaking from experience though, I prefer to use my editor.

goolz 6mo ago

I personally disagree on the first point. Claude code in a terminal with vim is much nicer. I just don’t see the need for the bloat of an IDE when the CLI versions work so damn well now.

bakies 6mo ago
And Claude can use CLI too. It's the perfect environment for coding agents.
impulser_ 6mo ago
They have Cursor CLI. Cursor is essentially all the Claude Code products but without the horrible bugs of Claude Code products. You can transfer from CLI to web and it actually works.

dzhiurgis 6mo ago

> They are so good that they actually made Gemini usable I think Gemini is best model out there, and it's not Cursor who you should praise. I use it with jetbrains junie. Vastly cheaper than claude, faster, produces better quality code, actually listens to your instructions, more accurate. I'm sure claude code cli has some cli magic that I'm missing out on, but having everything just work in a nice IDE (and llm to actually understand your symbol table) is like magic.

smartbit 6mo ago
Are you using Gemini 3.1 Pro? Subscription or paying for the tokens?
- dzhiurgis 6mo ago
  Tried 3.1 pro preview today a little bit, definitely blowing thru credits quicker, not sure about being better quality, but achieved all tasks perfectly. IDK how Junie does it, but I spend less than $50 USD per month and I'm on it 30 hours per week.

sippeangelo 6mo ago

That's why I'm so puzzled to why Composer doesn't work better when they have the ability to train it from scratch for their agent harness! Yet it still fails to apply edits, gets confused why it can't call some commands in its sandbox, the list goes on...